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Cavalry (Long) Mace?

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2011, 12:20:02 pm »
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Horsemans mace:

3 weight
14 difficulty
90 speed
100 reach
30 blunt
7200 gold
« Last Edit: June 28, 2011, 12:23:29 pm by Everkistus »

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 12:28:07 pm »
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Horsemans mace:

3 weight
14 difficulty
90 speed
100 reach
30 blunt
7200 gold

Your numbers are a bit too nice and rounded, how do you think Fasader does his "balancing" ? Why do you think we have speed, length, damage like 92, 103, 31 ? Weight like 0.75, 1.25, 2.75 ? Shield hit points like 479, 161, 174, 118 ? He needs to make it look like he has some magic formula, while all he has is his magic box of beer......  :wink:
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 12:52:34 pm »
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Ah of course, it needs to look more obscure. Here's a better one then:

Horsemans mace:

2.75 weight
14 difficulty
91 speed
99 reach
29 blunt
7095 gold

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 12:53:48 pm »
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Ah of course, it needs to look more obscure. Here's a better one then:

Horsemans mace:

2.75 weight
14 difficulty
91 speed
99 reach
29 blunt
7095 gold

Much more "balanced & believable".  :wink:
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 05:48:51 pm »
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speed rating 91?

ever held a mace in ur hands? the are pretty heavy, u cant use it fast as a sword and even not if they are that long and used 1handed...and there must be a model first before it can be implemented dont forget that..

though i vote yes...there must be more long 1h weapons for cav :p
« Last Edit: June 29, 2011, 05:50:10 pm by Armbrust_Schtze »
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 06:33:24 pm »
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Atm, the only "best" 1handed weapon, is the arab cav sword. Some people say the morningstar is also very good. But the base damage of it is only 25p damage. So this would be a nice addition to the current cav weapons.
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2011, 05:22:19 pm »
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u could use basterd swords on horseback they have same length as the sarranid cav sword
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2011, 10:29:57 pm »
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u could use basterd swords on horseback they have same length as the sarranid cav sword
but those get a 35% damage penalty for using a shield alondside with it or a 33% damage penalty for being 2handed and on horseback. So only 24c base damage for heavy basterd on horseback.
I want a different 1handed cav option!
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2011, 01:02:44 am »
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I think a long cavalry mace would be great. I already said something like this before in this thread, though.

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2011, 01:59:18 pm »
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Yes, and for those who just wish to have the cosmetic/dramatic effect of holding a mace while mounted, the 1H iron mace is a pretty one (though less practical) to choose from.

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2011, 03:32:32 pm »
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2011, 03:04:37 am »
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Kick and kill me ingame if this is totally wrong, but how about adding crushtrough to it?

A long mace swung from horseback would have -alot- of force.
It would also be an interesting option for cumbersome tincans to break trough MASTERWORK SABRE duel-masters.
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2011, 03:30:49 am »
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Kick and kill me ingame if this is totall wrong, but how about adding crushtrough to it?

A long mace swung from horseback would have -alot- of force.
It would also be an interesting option for cumbersome tincans to break trough MASTERWORK SABRE duel-masters.
Considering 'all' the crushthrough weapons are held by both hands and under 86 speed rating, a one handed high speed rating crushthrough mace would definitely be overpowering. Poor 2H/Pole'ers already have archers to deal with, now they have to deal with auto-blocks + crushthrough? Ouch, even being a shielder myself I'd say no.

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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2011, 03:35:43 am »
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Now I'd use completely different attributes for it, if crushtrough was granted.

3.50 weight
14 difficulty
87 speed
102 reach
28 blunt
8250 gold

Basicly just a long, but really slow crushtrough weapon for cavalry.
You COULD use it on foot, as a tincan, but every decent player knows how to handle hammers and the likes with crushtrough.

I'm a Pole/2H myself, and I think this could work.

And if your opinion is unimportant, mine is just as.  :)
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Re: Horseman's Mace
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2011, 03:48:12 am »
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Kick and kill me ingame if this is totally wrong, but how about adding crushtrough to it?

The morningstar used to be crushthrough and it was tremendously overpowered when used from horseback.  When Gaga used it on a champion plated charger it could only really be stopped by a direct pike to the face.