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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2011, 03:58:20 am »
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No, the math showed that you can maintain 20k ish gear if you LOSE EVERY ROUND and still make gold.  With a higher multiplier and longer streak with that multiplier you can maintain a much higher gear cost.

Of course, if you're good enough to drive your team to victory most of the time, you will get multiplier streaks. However, this is not how it works for most of the people. I don't consider myself a bad player nor a great player, I had a good games, and ones not so much. I think this goes for most of the players. For me, it's imposible to upkeep gear worth of 38k gold and stay in green numbers at the end of the day. And that is definitly not a superior gear to be running around in.
The meaning of this is, just because you can maintain your 50k+ gear doesn't mean the system doesn't need tweaking, so a mediocre gear is affordable for a mediocre player.

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 04:05:35 am »
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We've done the math several times and that makes you a liar.

Yes, liar.

Gorath how can you be a this much big liar?

Srsly, stop talking Gorath, stop saying anything. We know you hate plate and you're a liar. So, now, stfu.
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 04:08:35 am »
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Yes, liar.

Gorath how can you be a this much big liar?

Srsly, stop talking Gorath, stop saying anything. We know you hate plate and you're a liar. So, now, stfu.


Here's my question... what the fuck is your obscene obsession with plate? Shit bro... viagra's gonna go outta bussiness one of these days too, whatcha gonna do then?

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 04:11:44 am »
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Forums are just a place for people to argue.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2011, 04:14:12 am »
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Forums are just a place for people to argue.  :rolleyes:


...welcome to the internet, where everyone has a voice :D  I personally find it entertaining.

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2011, 04:16:02 am »
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...welcome to the internet, where everyone has a voice :D  I personally find it entertaining.


Oh than i am just wrong here i thought this Forum is to solving Problems with the Game not getting Entertained!?

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2011, 04:19:35 am »
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You can maintain maximum 48500 and this will break even, with 52k you will lose gold, you instead say that you're gaining gold. Now you might gain a little if you get a nice winning streak to get a 5x for a few rounds, but in the long term you will lose gold. Pretty simple concept, no need to troll anymore.

Sorry but you're going of an average that doesn't apply quite the way you think it does.  I log in, get on a winning team, get x5 multiplier for 6 rounds with only 1 thing breaking every other round, log out.  I've made money.  Since the patch, I've made enough money to stay at my 40k buffer zone while purchasing 2 more horses (rouncey, cataphract) a bec, a siege xbow, 3 new 1hers and a siege ladder.  Sure the law of averages may say that you're only going to be able to maintain 40k, but in practical use things seem to work out a bit different.

doesn't mean the system doesn't need tweaking, so a mediocre gear is affordable for a mediocre player.

Mediocre gear?  Mid-tier gear isn't exactly "mediocre" and your numbers of 38k gear aren't mediocre either:
Longsword   5123
Pike   1589
Lamellar Armor   12030
Khergit War Helmet   1775
Mail Gauntlets   3427
Leather Boots   363
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Total:  24307

A far cry under your 38k example, only slightly above 20k and this is a far cry from "mediocre" gear....   :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 04:25:41 am by Gorath »
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2011, 04:36:34 am »
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2011, 06:01:27 am »
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Oh than i am just wrong here i thought this Forum is to solving Problems with the Game not getting Entertained!?


these are not the threads you're looking for... *waves hand like jedi*



This is 'General Discussion'
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2011, 06:58:57 am »
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2011, 10:11:15 am »
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What u don't realize is.I make good money in lamellar plus mail and a weapon

People like Gannon don't like to play with anything but the most expensive armor, because anything less than that does not make their dick look big enough.


It's a rather basic problem of games that solely consist of killing other human players - you have to farm other people to be successful, however those other people need a chance to farm YOU too. It's a delicate balance of killing and getting killed.

If c-rpg would be pay2play, perhaps Gannon would just buy the "armorsuit of uberness" and the "sword of pwnage" with real-life money - and then start to whine if those items did not give him the absolute power over other players.
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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2011, 10:31:09 am »
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A far cry under your 38k example, only slightly above 20k and this is a far cry from "mediocre" gear....   :rolleyes:

Everything below Milanese Plate is mediocre gear for these guys :rolleyes:

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2011, 10:42:15 am »
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Problems :
- If good team balance (we all stay to x1 or x2).
- If the round is quilckly end (no win money/experience).

Just to say This system cannot work suitably

The last XP/GOLD system wasn't be better?

With the previous patch, <250 gold when we won  and/or <50 when we lost.

Gains gold/xp by killing the opponents and by staying near the battle seemed to me more interesting.
It was our actions and our initiatives that award us our gold/experience and the victory... not a vulgar pendulum...

Why not to just add 1% "repairs" with it?

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2011, 11:01:36 am »
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People like Gannon don't like to play with anything but the most expensive armor, because anything less than that does not make their dick look big enough.


It's a rather basic problem of games that solely consist of killing other human players - you have to farm other people to be successful, however those other people need a chance to farm YOU too. It's a delicate balance of killing and getting killed.

If c-rpg would be pay2play, perhaps Gannon would just buy the "armorsuit of uberness" and the "sword of pwnage" with real-life money - and then start to whine if those items did not give him the absolute power over other players.

I've never played in plate armor, but i wanted to get there eventually as part of my character growth. Now that option is no longer available. You don't understand what a role playing game is, as i said several times, go play native you will enjoy it alot more, instead of trying to make crpg a clone of native with a character you can make in 2 days (not really that much of a difference), and equipment based on wether you win or not.

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Re: Why are leechers so stupid?
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2011, 11:06:37 am »
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Problems :
- If good team balance (we all stay to x1 or x2).
- If the round is quilckly end (no win money/experience).

Just to say This system cannot work suitably
In theory yes, but it never happens. Maybe some players have a bad time, bad luck or one team uses a awesome tactic (rare)
Less round time less break chance!

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The last XP/GOLD system wasn't be better?

With the previous patch, <250 gold when we won  and/or <50 when we lost.

No you did not, it was capped at 150 ish gold.

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Gains gold/xp by killing the opponents and by staying near the battle seemed to me more interesting.
It was our actions and our initiatives that award us our gold/experience and the victory... not a vulgar pendulum...

True

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Why not to just add 1% "repairs" with it?

Because then you will soon experience my Morningstar in your soft neck held by my plated arm after being trampled by my unstoppable panzerhorse.
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