remove the ability to block with lances and pikes?

[Dravic]

Being both a Lancer and a Pikeman/Halberdier myself I always wanted to see something like this implemented.
It would be harder either for pikemen and lancers but still more realistic.

An alternative idea would be the ability of lances/pikes to crush trough blocks.
Especially for lances at high speed they should be able to crush the block aswell as hammers (but only at high speed)
Same for pikes, but still this idea would lower the strenght of pikemen.

This is where I stopped reading your post.

This is game, not real world. It is about game balance, not about its realism.

game balance > realism

(if you listened to teacher on maths lessons)

[Whiligelm]

This is where I stopped reading your post.

This is game, not real world. It is about game balance, not about its realism.

game balance > realism

(if you listened to teacher on maths lessons)

You should have read the second part than...

Also yes I'm not asking for something so close to reality. I'm asking to get a bit closer to medieval warfare, respecting the game balance.
Parrying a high speed lance thrust just by the same animation all the time is getting annoying.

[Tears of Destiny]

Pike is shit slow. It cannot be used for dueling since it only thrust attacks on top of that.

*coughcoughWalt_F4coughcough*

[Kafein]

You should have read the second part than...

Also yes I'm not asking for something so close to reality. I'm asking to get a bit closer to medieval warfare, respecting the game balance.
Parrying a high speed lance thrust just by the same animation all the time is getting annoying.

If it was for realism, no one would use lances onehanded on horseback in the first place.

Also,

Pike is shit slow. It cannot be used for dueling since it only thrust attacks on top of that.

*coughcoughWalt_F4coughcough*

Depends on what pike you are talking about. The 3m pike is extremely hard to duel with, because you have to be very far to hit (with all the lolstabbing you want). The long spear however can be used, successfully from time to time, but becomes serious in duel only when masterworked, because turnstabbing actually works even at facehug range on this one.

[Whiligelm]

If it was for realism, no one would use lances onehanded on horseback in the first place.

It's not that true.
Winged hussars had no shields, also almost evry mounted soldier from the end of the 15th century refused to use a shield.
Conquistadores might be an exception, but before the gunpowder (or during it's first use) knights used no shields

A clear examples are the french gendarmes

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If it was for realism

Maybe you meant advantage and not realism

[Tears of Destiny]

You mean before gunpowder knights used shields, and after gunpowder they dropped out of favor... both of those knights you posted do not predate gunpowder in europe.

[RamsesXXIIX]

*coughcoughWalt_F4coughcough*

As far as i remember, Walt_F4 uses a long spear.

[Tears of Destiny]

As far as i remember, Walt_F4 uses a long spear.

Yup, still in the very bad habit of calling the Long Spear by the old name 

[Torben]

i got a website for u:  www.fuckrealismthisisagame.com

[Whiligelm]

You mean before gunpowder knights used shields, and after gunpowder they dropped out of favor... both of those knights you posted do not predate gunpowder in europe.

I said before gunpowder was completely implemented (late 16th century). Before the invention of muskets some knights didnt used any shield

[MadJackMcMad]

Simply decrease the speed of pikes to limit their duelling effectiveness, but marginally increase their damage so that they can continue to be effective against cavalry and as support against infantry.

[Butan]

Pikes and lances are already very hard to use when on foot so -1

[Elerion]

The fact that as a lancer I can easily block incoming hits after being reared in the middle of enemy infantry may be unnecessarily powerful. It's not possible with a jousting lance. I don't see a problem making Heavy Lance and possibly Lance have the same limitation.

It would however also make cav-on-cav duels much more lethal, if you can't block their incoming lance poke when you mess up.

[ArchonAlarion]

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Screw anti-realism, it is a false god.

[Whiligelm]

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Screw anti-realism, it is a false god.

  +1
But I still think that a extreme realistic game cannot exist