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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2011, 04:04:48 pm »
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Alltough I don't support kill based rewards because it has been found just terrible gamewise everyone rushing for getting the killstrike.

Again, this is why I suggested the hybrid system, mixing what we have now with what we had before. Before, it wasn't kill-based. It was proximity-based. Being outside of XP proximity, however, could be overcome by firing the killshot(in the case of an archer).
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #181 on: February 14, 2011, 04:38:29 pm »
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current xp system is better than anything you guys suggest, only thing that needs to be put again is a week/two weeks period of time before you can retire, so that higher gens wont be retiring every two-three days

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #182 on: February 14, 2011, 04:49:00 pm »
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Hmmm, funny though how much free time people have. I'm gen 11 and it takes me about 1 week to get to lvl 31.... I wonder how people can be so no-life that can get 8 million xp on one day.  :shock: The xp system prob. would need little bit tweaking. Alltough I don't support kill based rewards because it has been found just terrible gamewise everyone rushing for getting the killstrike.

Unless u can guarantee 11 straight hours of times five even a gen 20 can't retire in a day and for a gen twelve like me still takes me about two weeks and I play a decent amount just not in primetime hours due to wife and kid

Even for high generations its gonna take literal days of playtime on the average multi because I have yet to see even any so called alarm listers get hours of times five in a row mostly its small runs of either side not many team win streaks overall
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #183 on: February 14, 2011, 06:33:43 pm »
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Unless u can guarantee 11 straight hours of times five even a gen 20 can't retire in a day and for a gen twelve like me still takes me about two weeks and I play a decent amount just not in primetime hours due to wife and kid

Even for high generations its gonna take literal days of playtime on the average multi because I have yet to see even any so called alarm listers get hours of times five in a row mostly its small runs of either side not many team win streaks overall

Goretooth has been retiring about once every 1-2 days for a good time now.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #184 on: February 14, 2011, 06:39:06 pm »
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Unless u can guarantee 11 straight hours of times five even a gen 20 can't retire in a day and for a gen twelve like me still takes me about two weeks and I play a decent amount just not in primetime hours due to wife and kid

Even for high generations its gonna take literal days of playtime on the average multi because I have yet to see even any so called alarm listers get hours of times five in a row mostly its small runs of either side not many team win streaks overall

Siege is different. And I believe some people leave when they lose the multiplier to go to another server and win it there.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #185 on: February 14, 2011, 10:10:27 pm »
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Goretooth has been retiring about once every 1-2 days for a good time now.

This was a lie the first time u said it have u talked to.him I have

 Btw gorath was spreading that but listening to my clan master and believing it is a mistake
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #186 on: February 15, 2011, 12:10:05 am »
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By that logic, there is no reason to change the current system. If your only argument for it is motivation to win the round, that already exists in the current incarnation of cRPG. Win round = More XP = closer to retirement with bonus. It wouldn't be any different with "rounds won". Since people consider it mostly random based on who they get autobalanced with, the result will be approximately the same as it is now.

If you disagree; Calculate the time it takes to get to level 31 with a x1 multiplier. It's obscene.

EDIT: I did it for you. 145 hours of play time. That is an incredible amount of grinding for any casual player, equal to working a full-time job for 4 weeks.

You are right, and this is what I noticed while I was thinking about it on work, too. (My job is not really challenging  :lol: )

My solution: you get a special heirloom score. Each won round adds 2 points, each lost round removes one.

Would this help?  :?
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #187 on: February 15, 2011, 04:04:28 pm »
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This was a lie the first time u said it have u talked to.him I have

 Btw gorath was spreading that but listening to my clan master and believing it is a mistake

Don't be silly. We talk to Goretooth too, you know.
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #188 on: February 15, 2011, 04:26:30 pm »
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Hmmm, funny though how much free time people have. I'm gen 11 and it takes me about 1 week to get to lvl 31.... I wonder how people can be so no-life that can get 8 million xp on one day.  :shock: The xp system prob. would need little bit tweaking. Alltough I don't support kill based rewards because it has been found just terrible gamewise everyone rushing for getting the killstrike.

The gen xp bonus makes it possible, for example even you at gen11 can make 1-31 in the same time a gen1 makes 1-30. Now imagine the xp someone who is gen 20+ gets and 1-31 in 24h seems very likely.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #189 on: February 15, 2011, 04:29:34 pm »
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the problem was that geting gen bonus was very easy before the wipe and this bonus stayed - this means that some people started with gen 1 (those that had high lvl character that haven't retired) while others started with gen 10. those that retired before the wipe on "daily basis" (were kinda abusing/overusing the retirement system) are those that benefit from the wipe.

this is the problem
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #190 on: February 15, 2011, 04:48:18 pm »
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so my soon to be 4 heirlooms will be taken down to 1?
... Again?

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #191 on: February 15, 2011, 04:48:36 pm »
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the problem was that geting gen bonus was very easy before the wipe and this bonus stayed - this means that some people started with gen 1 (those that had high lvl character that haven't retired) while others started with gen 10. those that retired before the wipe on "daily basis" (were kinda abusing/overusing the retirement system) are those that benefit from the wipe.

this is the problem

Rescaling XP gain to reduce gen bonus is the way, really.
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #192 on: February 15, 2011, 04:54:11 pm »
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so my soon to be 4 heirlooms will be taken down to 1?
... Again?

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #193 on: February 15, 2011, 04:56:27 pm »
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Rescaling XP gain to reduce gen bonus is the way, really.
if anything than just count the time spent ingame with a character, transform it into xp, transform xp into some number of gen/loom bonus and thats all. than everybody will have bonus based on time spent ingame and not on how much he overused retirement system before the wipe.
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #194 on: February 15, 2011, 05:03:21 pm »
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if anything than just count the time spent ingame with a character, transform it into xp, transform xp into some number of gen/loom bonus and thats all. than everybody will have bonus based on time spent ingame and not on how much he overused retirement system before the wipe.

lol, the people that "overused" the retirement system before AND after the wipe are the very same people who will be at the top of the "time spent in game" list.
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