EUcucks, the looming issue

[Asheram]

no i already have shitty enough ping at 78 i dont want the servers to move farther away the eu cucks can deal with the ping

i live in cali so

ahh ok sry I misunderstood you my bad.

[_uwu_]

all the europoors who complain about ranged are just actual braindead troggies who have no common sense. sounds super harsh, but it's true. ranged isn't an unbeatable class, you're just playing like a moron or have unrealistic expectations. here's what i mean by this: if you're a typical 2h hero or polearm hero or a swashbuckler, you're just weak to ranged. that's not ranged being overpowered, that's just common sense. you're going to die EVERY TIME if you just charge in by yourself at a ranged player as one of those classes.


however, there are two main ways to counter ranged. one way is to TEAM UP and get multiple players to charge at any enemy ranged players. also, if you play a different class like another ranged class or grab a shield, then you're able to charge archers or xbows head on.

tl;dr eu players are cucks and whine about nothing

[bensai]

maybe the fall of the EU servers is analogous to the ravaging of europe by the immigrants in just a few years europe will be little syriaville/pakiville and america will be the last bastion of western culture for the next few decades until it falls as well and we all look like this

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[Yeldur]

all the europoors who complain about ranged are just actual braindead troggies who have no common sense. sounds super harsh, but it's true. ranged isn't an unbeatable class, you're just playing like a moron or have unrealistic expectations. here's what i mean by this: if you're a typical 2h hero or polearm hero or a swashbuckler, you're just weak to ranged. that's not ranged being overpowered, that's just common sense. you're going to die EVERY TIME if you just charge in by yourself at a ranged player as one of those classes.


however, there are two main ways to counter ranged. one way is to TEAM UP and get multiple players to charge at any enemy ranged players. also, if you play a different class like another ranged class or grab a shield, then you're able to charge archers or xbows head on.

tl;dr eu players are cucks and whine about nothing

tbf i agree with this now, since xbow received its nerf i havent had an issue with them, archers still hurt like fuck but at the end of the day it's a team game, charging by yourself won't work.
now that im an honourary NA i also agree that eu players are cucks
though to be fair, the skill of most EU archers is triple that of NA so I can see why there's a difference in terms of thought pattern. I don't personally think archers are OP, it's that the players are too good at playing the class. To which the only response possible is to actually nerf them. But whatever who cares EU is dead and with it all of the my old friendchers, long live NA.

maybe the fall of the EU servers is analogous to the ravaging of europe by the immigrants in just a few years europe will be little syriaville/pakiville and america will be the last bastion of western culture for the next few decades until it falls as well and we all look like this

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kek

[Leesin]

all the europoors who complain about ranged are just actual braindead troggies who have no common sense. sounds super harsh, but it's true. ranged isn't an unbeatable class, you're just playing like a moron or have unrealistic expectations. here's what i mean by this: if you're a typical 2h hero or polearm hero or a swashbuckler, you're just weak to ranged. that's not ranged being overpowered, that's just common sense. you're going to die EVERY TIME if you just charge in by yourself at a ranged player as one of those classes.


however, there are two main ways to counter ranged. one way is to TEAM UP and get multiple players to charge at any enemy ranged players. also, if you play a different class like another ranged class or grab a shield, then you're able to charge archers or xbows head on.

tl;dr eu players are cucks and whine about nothing

tfw when you are too autistic to realise that tactics were not the issue, the issue was 75%+ of players having some form of ranged in their build and the server turning into Counter Strike. It wasn't because people couldn't fight through it, it was because it was just fucking boring and they got tired of fighting through it. After doing that shit in the past for a very long time, they came back and the same shit happened in the revival, so they quickly grew bored again and went to play fun games. Why the fuck would or should anyone force them self to play something that is no longer fun for them?

[Gurnisson]

however, there are two main ways to counter ranged. one way is to TEAM UP and get multiple players to charge at any enemy ranged players. also, if you play a different class like another ranged class or grab a shield, then you're able to charge archers or xbows head on.

How servers die ^

[Nightingale]

The only step forward is to ignore EU players. When we focused on fixing EU issues we were met with hostility and a dead NA server because the game EU wants to play just isn't fun. Ranged has never been so weak yet you all are still calling for nerfs and you don't even play the game lol.

At this point, anything EU is secondary if that. NA is more important and we should have never taken our focus off fixing issues for our side.  Sorry to say it but EU is just a bunch of whiny cunts that can't agree on anything. I am sorry I ever listened to the nerf this or that threads I fell into the classic mistake column after saying I wouldn't... to get some inside perspective though it is very overwhelming a bunch of people claiming something is OP and you don't even know what they are talking about. You feel the need to fix it for them in some meaningful way. Yet they aren't there to improve the game and will never be satisfied no matter how many changes are made. I'm sorry I fell into this trap like every other balancer of this mod. Won't happen again.

[Oberyn]

This is what happens whenever the Eternal Anglo gets into any position of power. NA servers were a mistake. Enjoy reigning over the shitty, moldy ashes of an actual popular mod for a niche game.

[Oberyn]

What is the biggest contribution an NA person has made to this mod?

[bensai]

What is the biggest contribution an NA person has made to this mod?

 the shitpost

[fetus]

I think you guys are fighting over nothing the real problem is not the ranged class or anything its their NUMBERS basic idea is if you want to counter archers be a shielder well im a shielder and yes i can COUNTER an archer but you cant dodge arrows coming from everywhere teamwork will help you for some time but once your teammates tell you "we are catching archers for 1 hours im tired lets play another game"its the end

[Grytviken]

I think you guys are fighting over nothing the real problem is not the ranged class or anything its their NUMBERS basic idea is if you want to counter archers be a shielder well im a shielder and yes i can COUNTER an archer but you cant dodge arrows coming from everywhere teamwork will help you for some time but once your teammates tell you "we are catching archers for 1 hours im tired lets play another game"its the end

" There are too many 2hers on!".  / "There's too many Cav on"  /  "There's too many Shielders on today I can't play!" - Said noone ever

The problem isn't the numbers, it's that piercing damage scales way too well after the patch of destiny compared to other dmg types, and ranged piercing damage is even more obnoxious. Range should be strong, but not 1 shot someone in full plate with 27 str strong... that's just not fun. Now ppl with high level builds 34/35 can really output some damage we just wouldn't see before the level changes.

Most range dmg is fine except the random BS instakill headshots on full plate tbh.

A combination of better team balancing ( force 50/50 range on both teams) and scaled down headshot bonus damage on higher armor values would put things where they should be.

When you are stabbed in the face by a corseque or ashwood pike you are going to lose a huge amount of HP compared to any other melee weapon in the game, if not die instantly, but you could have just avoided it by blocking. When you are shot in the face by a range for around the same amount of huge damage you can't really say the same.

[CrazyCracka420]

The only step forward is to ignore EU players. When we focused on fixing EU issues we were met with hostility and a dead NA server because the game EU wants to play just isn't fun. Ranged has never been so weak yet you all are still calling for nerfs and you don't even play the game lol.

At this point, anything EU is secondary if that. NA is more important and we should have never taken our focus off fixing issues for our side.  Sorry to say it but EU is just a bunch of whiny cunts that can't agree on anything. I am sorry I ever listened to the nerf this or that threads I fell into the classic mistake column after saying I wouldn't... to get some inside perspective though it is very overwhelming a bunch of people claiming something is OP and you don't even know what they are talking about. You feel the need to fix it for them in some meaningful way. Yet they aren't there to improve the game and will never be satisfied no matter how many changes are made. I'm sorry I fell into this trap like every other balancer of this mod. Won't happen again.

I wish chadz/cmp and the other devs (to a lesser extent item balancers)  would have taken this approach back in late 2010 early 2011.  So many nerfs to core mechanics to satisfy people whining.

Example, there's a hypothetical wall standing in the players way.  They could go around it, over it, knock it down, have a teammate boost them, dig under (or just accept the wall is there and go another direction), but instead the player whines for the devs to lower the wall or remove the wall entirely.  Devs listen and remove something that the players had the ability to adapt to the whole time, but were unwilling to do. 

It just ends up leaving the game watered down when you go through nerf cycles on classes and items ad infinitum.  ranged and horse ranged are so underwhelming compared to native, yet people still bitch and complain.  A proper team balance would help some of the issues, but I don't think the whiny bitches will ever be satisfied until they can duel the whole other team without any interference. 

[Phoenix]

What is the biggest contribution an NA person has made to this mod?

prof is NA

[_uwu_]

What is the biggest contribution an NA person has made to this mod?

shut the fuck up retard i'll tear u apart piece by piece