There is nothing wrong with ranged.....

[Jona]

the only one that is a viable counter (it's not really) to ranged

People really need to dispel the notion that shields are a counter to ranged. At best, they're a coping mechanism.

[njames89]

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[Butan]

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Normal people reaction: "damn, that guy is good"

Haters reaction: "nerf ranged"

[Gnjus]

Normal people reaction: "damn, that guy is good"

Haters reaction: "nerf ranged"

Let's see what we've got here, normies or haters. Poll added.

[XyNox]

Oh whats this ? Are we doing another round of "nerfing by singular screenshots" ?

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Dont worry guys I got you covered. I will see to it that 2h and pole nerf will be top priority, as you can clearly judge by this exhibit of scientific evidence above.

[darmaster]

hold on a second, i'm the first not calling a nerf because of a screenshot, but the contexts of those 2 posted are very different; one is a 5 consecutively headshots made by the same guy in less than a minute, the other could be replaced easily by a zero_sat, bagge, daveukr and many other not exactly melee players top scoring

[Sparvico]

Honestly the real problem EU has with ranged isn't that a single archer or xbower is over powered, it's that half  of the EU player base chooses to be ranged. We have the exact same weapons here in NA but lack this epidemic of ranged players, so the real question becomes "what makes the NA players mindset and moral character so superior to the average europer".

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obviously that last bit is a shitpost. My real point is that it likely won't matter what the balancers  do to ranged, short of completely ruining it like once happened to HA (which frankly is not a real option). EU will always have a ranged problem simply because a fairly substatial part of the EU community will continue to prefer playing ranged, and it is the mere volume of ranged players that is your real issue.

Incidentally we really need a working hack detection system back, as currently any chump as wants to can download any amount of skill they desire.

[Bittersteel]

I have said it plenty of times, the problem with ranged is their numbers, not their power.

2 archers can be dealt with, 5 on the other hand, not.

I honestly don't think range is OP currently. There I said it.

What is OP, however, is the number of people that utilize it.

look here nerds. i genuinely think that the issue is NOT the MAP or the amount of RANGED on a single team OR the OPness of archers as much as it is about the PURE QUANTITY OF RANGED PLAYERS.

Honestly the real problem EU has with ranged isn't that a single archer or xbower is over powered, it's that half  of the EU player base chooses to be ranged.

Wow honestly? thanks bro

[Sparvico]

Not my fault you shitbirds have 15 different threads open about this at the moment.

[Bittersteel]

Shitbird only made one thread, he also said this actually

[bensai]

hey i said it first just remember that

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ive also been ranting about the poor moral character or europeans for years so also remember that too

[Thryn]

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[Grytviken]

Honestly the real problem EU has with ranged isn't that a single archer or xbower is over powered, it's that half  of the EU player base chooses to be ranged. We have the exact same weapons here in NA but lack this epidemic of ranged players, so the real question becomes "what makes the NA players mindset and moral character so superior to the average europer".

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obviously that last bit is a shitpost. My real point is that it likely won't matter what the balancers  do to ranged, short of completely ruining it like once happened to HA (which frankly is not a real option). EU will always have a ranged problem simply because a fairly substatial part of the EU community will continue to prefer playing ranged, and it is the mere volume of ranged players that is your real issue.

Incidentally we really need a working hack detection system back, as currently any chump as wants to can download any amount of skill they desire.

Incidentally the balance team does the opposite to fix the problem of too many range at hand, they make stronger range builds more accessible at lower levels and to STF chars by lowering requirements instead of making them only obtainable to higher lvl dedicated range players.

[Jaren]

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You bastard.

To be fair, I was sporting my fashionable Donkey Helmet - Available now with your Patreon support!

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[Nehvar]

Where's the poll option for "spec him for aimbot usage"?