End this ranged malaria

[McKli_PL]

You're right, i was never good. I was just one of the best Forum warriors meanwhile in game on server

[Asheram]

I swear to God.

I've been away from this game for a year. I come back to my nerfed-to-shit thrower that I wasted 3 loompoints on, and the first thing I read on here is a thread demanding further ranged nerfs.

Instead of bitching like a little bitch about nerfing classes you're bad against, why not be a man and try to adapt your gameplay to the reality of the current meta.

You probably have helicopter parents.

Yours in mutual enmity til the end of time,
Vengt

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[jtobiasm]

You were average at best

My tourney results prove im not, simple.

Make another Tourney 5v5 or 8v8, I can guarantee i will be in the final. Like every tourney I've been in.

[Mr_Sativa]

You have to use your surroundings, awareness, move your shield around and move around your teammates. If you play a bit more focused, you will survive with a 0 skill shield. Especially with some teamwork.

This is one of few times, an archer can actually have some melee prowess and still not be totally worthless as an archer as well.

Stop this WHINING CANCER. That's what's killing anything. Your relentless negative pessimism.

Have a great day!

[Mr_Sativa]

Otherwise, how hard would if be for you to sacrifice 1-3 points into shield? Take from your IF, your stats, or anything else. That's what EVERYONE else is doing. It is fair.

[Mr_Sativa]

Never asked for ranged nerfs, I asked for something to deal with them, because currently, we can't.

Archers are strong without numbers and are broken beyond all hope WITH numbers, there are TOO MANY ARCHERS, there needs to be some kind of limit to how many archers you can have or something to stop the constant archer spam. Notice how a large majority of EU1 have also shoved crossbows into their builds. Want to know why? It's because they CAN'T deal with the ridiculous damage archers do, it's either hide away and shoot at the archers or die, because even with a shield, two archers together only have to run away in two different directions and then they can kill you in two shots because it's fucking easy to do.

Archers currently only have to go a pure STR build and voila, they now have the power to do more damage than a crossbow build with a +3 arbalest with +3 bolts. Is that right? No. It isn't.
Archers ARE killing this server purely on the basis that they are so much stronger than everything melee, and even playing a tanky build isn't an option because then they'll just run away and shoot you full of arrows. The size of their quiver is irrelevant, they can take out as many people as they like with the size it is now lol.

Don't know if you got dropped a lot as a kid on the ground, head first. This is some serious bullshit.

Your hypothetical talk is staggeringly shallow; if there are two archers, where is your ally? It's not a game where the teams start off 5v1 or 10v2 or like that. It's even numbers, as close as it can get. If you end up facing two archers, all alone, and you still attack them and die - that's your fucking fault. Learn to LEARN, get smart. Start playing and stop crying. Fucking baby.

You obviously don't know jack shit about the quiver sizes, normal builds for an acher today, dmg-comparison between an arbalest and my barbed arrows... What weedy little sap.

Have a good day!

[sF_Guardian]

JUst go 9/33+ Shieldwhore, voila, archer problem is gone. Crossbowmy old friends on the other hand are a totally different story since they don't really have to sacrifice anything to be good ranged and can still easily defend themselves in melee. Arbalesters are the shit pain on EU1 theese days IMO.

[Rico]

Not true at all  I think most popular 2h/pole are 24/21 and 21/24. 27 agi and more it's lightspeed. As I'm 21/21 cav in heavy armor I rarely feel outspammed by pure melee builds.

you don't carry 2 quivers and a ranged weapon

[CrazyCracka420]

Hands of Throwers... most suffering 'class' in crpg history. We never got any love!

It's inaccurate, we need to spec into melee and throwing equally and the only really deadly weapon are the lances with low ammo.
Don't you dare complain about throwers! 

Throwing should never have been "balanced" around pure throwers.  It should be balanced for every melee person to be able to bring some throwing weapons into the battle.   A hit from a throwing weapon should be equivalent damage (or less) than a typical hit from a melee weapon.  And it shouldn't be possible to carry 12 throwing spears at one time, that is ridiculous.

[Jona]

Throwing should never have been "balanced" around pure throwers.  It should be balanced for every melee person to be able to bring some throwing weapons into the battle.   A hit from a throwing weapon should be equivalent damage (or less) than a typical hit from a melee weapon.

I wish this were the case. I can take a 0 PT 0 requirement throwing lance to my bare head with 0 IF and live (most of the time).

[WITCHCRAFT]

Why would you call someone bad player since you haven't played the game for over 1 year? Thats really arrogant.

truly, the worst player is the one that does not play.

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[Úlfur]

All your prayers have been heard with the new Viking shield.
Let's complain about cav my old friends or agiwhores instead. huehuehue

[BlindGuy]

Is too many archers and crossbowmen and throwers. Please think happy friendly internet person, are you having skills? Dont be a gay.

[Gravoth_iii]

Is too many archers and crossbowmen and throwers. Please think happy friendly internet person, are you having skills? Dont be a gay.

Not sure what you were trying to say but im assuming you are implying ranged takes little skill. I think at this point ranged takes the most effort for the least outcome. Downing cav i guess rewards plenty though, but as far as shooting infantry, you have to be so on point with your shots to keep up with even mediocre infantry players as far as score and kills go.

[Rebelyell]

My tourney results prove im not, simple.

Make another Tourney 5v5 or 8v8, I can guarantee i will be in the final. Like every tourney I've been in.

I will remember that.