Religion of peace shooting in California

[Xant]

Oh yes, the jackpot is that one of the shooters was female. Those retards couldn't have been more wrong if they tried. I wonder how they're justifying all those tweets to themselves -- oh wait, no I don't, they're just going to wipe it from their memory.

[Oberyn]

Well they're not wrong. A lot of muslims are "white", if that guy's name had been Alfredo Salvatore he could easily have passed for italian, or spanish, or any number of meditteranean european nationality. Of course that's not what they mean when they say "white". What they mean is belonging and identifying with any sort of western civilization identifier, aka The Great Satan and source of all pain and misery. It is the crypto-marxist perception of the "White Male" (bourgeois opressor with all the power) vs "Opressed Minority" (literally everyone else, including even modern western "white" females, perhaps the most priviledged and coddled ethnic group in the entire history of the planet). They understand nothing outside of this paragdim.


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If this guy had shot poor opressed Michael Brown and his name was "western", he would absolutely be considered "white". Mere skin color is completely irrelevant in their retarded world view.

[Oberyn]

Oh I'm sure you love yourself, just not your people. You don't even have a "people", after all. Literally every single human being that happens to reside in the same territorial space as you are your "people", right? I'm sure they all see it the same way too. Do you identify as "white"?

[Butan]

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 Stop stroking yourself on "My guess was bestest" and feeding the Oberyn. Post insightful information on the topic instead.

[Oberyn]

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 Stop stroking yourself on "My guess was bestest" and feeding the Oberyn. Post insightful information on the topic instead.

Like what, exactly? Some more masturbation on how gun control is the answer and islam is yet again completely blameless? Maybe something along the lines of how white male atheists are the real problem, Heskey's sole "contribution" to the thread thus far. Would that be more in accord with your majesty's opinions? I wouldn't want to violate your safe space, I know contrary opinions are so hurtful.

[Overdriven]

Like I said just another day in the US. There's been a shooting of 4 or more people pretty much every day this year there. So this time they happen to be Muslim shooters. It was likely to happen eventually with that rate of shootings. Still doesn't come across as a terrorist attack though so they just happen to be Muslim. Now lets go and check the race and religion of all those other shootings so we can analyse them and discuss how fucked up their beliefs are and how that must be the reason for their crime.

I bet if Paris wasn't fresh in the minds of many this wouldn't even be a news story.

[Xant]

Like I said just another day in the US. There's been a shooting of 4 or more people pretty much every day this year there. So this time they happen to be Muslim shooters. It was likely to happen eventually with that rate of shootings. Still doesn't come across as a terrorist attack though so they just happen to be Muslim. Now lets go and check the race and religion of all those other shootings so we can analyse them and discuss how fucked up their beliefs are and how that must be the reason for their crime.

Hahaha, classic Muslim reaction.

[Xant]

I bet if Paris wasn't fresh in the minds of many this wouldn't even be a news story.

LOL. So fucking delusional. This isn't "just like other shootings", it's the deadliest one since Sandy Hook in 2012. Of course it'd be a news story no matter what, you retard.

Do you know what the tell-tale sign of a Muslim shooting is btw? Multiple shooters. Because they all suffer from the same mental illness and worship the same murderous imaginary friend, it's easy to find other people to go on a little murder spree with you. Other shootings are normally committed by lone crazies.

Oh yes, and the remote controlled IED at the scene...

And let's not forget how rare it is for man and wife to send their kid away and then go on a suicide murder spree together. #JustMuslimThings

[Overdriven]

I meant their religion douche bag. Of course a shooting would be of this size. That's a given.

Whilst lone shooters are more common there are plenty of reports of mass shootings involving more than one gunman and guess what? They weren't Muslim.

Google is your friend.

[Xant]

Their religion isn't a news story....

[Oberyn]

Fortunately I don't daily run into stupid acts of intolerance that necessitate anything more, (you'd be proud of me Oberyn, I walked past a Muslim lady and her little boy on my way to work today, they were holding hands and talking about what they'd seen on TV last night... Christ I was so scared! I barely got away with my life!!!)

That's nice, I'm so glad for you. Sadly, I do run into stupid acts of intolerance almost on a daily basis. It's apparently sooo unimaginable that such things happens. My fears are laughable and just the insane ramblings of a xenophobe, I was clearly raised this way and indoctrinated by fantasies, absolutely nothing in my life could have made me this way. Do you know the Saint-Denis area? Do you have any idea what it's like to live in such a neighborhood as an ethnic frenchman? Of course you don't. Your utter contempt is noted, and again, I invite you to come visit me in Paris. I would love to personally show you a fraction of what I and my family have been subjected to. Few things would bring me greater pleasure. 
For a glimpse read this article. It's close, but not nearly the entire picture. This is from the perspective of a bobbo, not even someone who lived there most of his life, and even this dumb bundle of sticks managed to get his eyes open.

http://www.politico.eu/article/molenbeek-broke-my-heart-radicalization-suburb-brussels-gentrification/

[Vibe]

Like I said just another day in the US. There's been a shooting of 4 or more people pretty much every day this year there. So this time they happen to be Muslim shooters. It was likely to happen eventually with that rate of shootings. Still doesn't come across as a terrorist attack though so they just happen to be Muslim. Now lets go and check the race and religion of all those other shootings so we can analyse them and discuss how fucked up their beliefs are and how that must be the reason for their crime.

I bet if Paris wasn't fresh in the minds of many this wouldn't even be a news story.

So what do you honestly think this was? A couple just shooting some random people up?

[Grytviken]

It's always been a retarded defence yes, but in public the first thing anyone ever does after a shooting in the US is find something to blame that isn't anything to do with gun control. Which is difficult when most shooters are white (cant blame them) and are not explicitly religious (cant blame atheists), so they often resort in public to 'He was just one sick son-of-a-bitch'. It's not a defence of their actions (hence the rare use in court), but it's used as a defence of why it's nothing to do with gun control and is an isolated case.

What better way? Have them *not* apologise and then have them claim that the attack was 100% motivated by religious belief. That's how you keep the stigma alive if you want the backlash, which extremists do. At least you seem to understand that, others on this forum seem to be of the opinion that islamists are scared of the backlash and it's what the west should do to play 'hard ball' with the terrorists, attack the innocent.

  The motives are different. Why should a blatant rejection of the secular norms of society not receive backlash and criticism? The black firearm homicide rate is twice as much as whites despite them only making up 14% of the population. Mass shootings are rare compared to the many single/double murders that take place sometimes 10 times a day in cities like Chicago.

   Religion is imprinted into our DNA, it is a natural reaction in humanity to reject solitude. It also doubles as a social function, but when society or social interaction is degenerate enough our imaginations can overtake reality. It's reasonable to suggest this natural attraction and obsession of religion can be replaced by a less than desirable function of society leading to violence.

The percentage of Muslims in the US is less than 1%, so they are hardly influential at all. You have a higher chance of being struck by lightning then running into a Muslim where I live. So for such a small representation of Society they will obviously receive a larger backlash considering Islamic terrorism has caused alot of deaths in the US.

[Xant]

Typical Heskey response, don't answer the question at all, only make some "witty" sarcastic comment that seems to imply something... but doesn't.

"lolol seems a bit too empowering ))))"

[Sir_Hans]

Them being a couple is a bit of a curve-ball, it not only stands out from the other weekly mass shootings in the States, but it stands out from your bog-standard ISIS attacks too. I thought traditional radicalised Islamic women were supposed to be too downtrodden to do anything like this, seems a little bit too... 'empowering' (lol) for that. My suspicion, this will not be related to any organised terrorist cell, whatever delusions led to this act of violence (hell it may even be religiously motivated, let's not throw the possibility out the window) I doubt ISIS had a finger in it. Tho if I were ISIS with a shitty track-record of successful terror attacks in the US, I'd be falling over myself trying to take credit for this.

Right it probably wasn't ISIS, It was Islamic extremism. ISIS is just a portion of the Islamic Extremist picture.
A muslim doesn't have to be a member of ISIS to take the koran literally and murder people who aren't muslims.