Religion of peace shooting in California

[Xant]

how the fuck did this thread get 11 pages long, people?

I know right, usually threads like these are very short-lived.

[Molly]

The spam has always been strong in us.
Hardly surprising. 

[Moncho]

Not just this one, the London one made yesterday is already at 6. And all of these are the same few people spouting the same nonsense over and over without ever getting anywhere... but hey, the Ukraine is at 702 pages (over 10k replies), the refugees one at 86, so even with all the "Religion of Peace" threads around, Russia is still worse.

[Butan]

I miss Tovi.

+1

At least he wasnt a nonsensical hippy, and had understanding (if warped) of politics and life.

Here's some more pepe cheerfulness, after someone who was in the middle of it all said their prayers for Paris victims:

PRAY ???

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR RELIGIONS !!!!

Well, actually it was one of its most intelligent post in the last weeks. Thats something.

[pepejul]

Look how you talk about me instead of ideas...

You just say "he's dumb, being teacher is easy (just come and try)..."  you lie about what I hate (just read my words instead of imagine them)

but... where are your argues ? Where are the facts ?

Someone is standing in front of you with no fear... you can't shot him. You are mad... but so powerless (no gun on internet !only your brain as weapon)

Keep attacking me on my RL and job... it won't change the reality of facts : you are scared and need weapon to feel safe. I don't need weapon caus' I'm not afraid.

This difference between us is huge.

[Vibe]

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but it is not our pepe

it won't change the reality of facts : you are scared and need weapon to feel safe. I don't need weapon caus' I'm not afraid.

This difference between us is huge.

pepe pepe, what are you even talking about

[Xant]

Look how you talk about me instead of ideas...

You just say "he's dumb, being teacher is easy (just come and try)..."  you lie about what I hate (just read my words instead of imagine them)

but... where are your argues ? Where are the facts ?

Someone is standing in front of you with no fear... you can't shot him. You are mad... but so powerless (no gun on internet !only your brain as weapon)

Keep attacking me on my RL and job... it won't change the reality of facts : you are scared and need weapon to feel safe. I don't need weapon caus' I'm not afraid.

This difference between us is huge.

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[pepejul]

Your best argue ? Nice.... you deserve to be armed. (You probably need it)

[Xant]

Show me one (1) argument you have ever made.

For your consideration: argument; a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion.

[pepejul]

about what ?

Guns are a problem more than a solution : http://www.gallup.com/poll/14509/americans-guns-danger-defense.aspx

Guns at home are more dangerous for innocent than robbers and murderes : http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/

Muslims anti-terrorists too : http://www.m-a-t.org/

Muslims of the World condamn terrorism : http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/

Let me see yours now...

In French : "argument" = fact wich make your reasoning valid.   I donno the english word (maybe "evidence" ?) for it.

[Sandersson Jankins]

As a gun-adoring 120lb (that's like 53 kilos or some shit to you Euros) skellington, I feel as though I might narrowly miss PEPE's ire.

It isn't exactly proper to say that ownership of a firearm absolutely implies that the person is in constant fear for his/her life. I'm 24, and I've not once been a victim of any major crime; nor have I ever really been in much danger. Of course there have been some drunks wanting to fight, or some groups of unsavory sorts looking to roll people, but if you're aware of your surroundings and charasmatic/confident, you don't have to ventilate some motherfucker wanting to fight you, even if you're carrying a gun.

But I adore military history, and I love shooting guns. I enjoy the smell of gunpowder; it really gives me joy. Of course I'm extraordinarily loathe beyond words to actually end someone's life, even if they're trying to do the same for me. But as far as I'm concerned, someone initiating an act of violence has forfeited any right to safety they had.

It is a very big difference in culture; I've lived in a place for most of my life, in which I am not unlikely to hear many, many gunshots on Sundays or general weekends. People like to invite family over and shoot guns!

I'm not at all uncomfortable about this. If you heard a single gunshot where you live, you'd likely call the authorities. It is a very large cultural difference between us, and for someone claiming to be very tolerant (and likely proud of this fact), it seems rather hypocritical to denounce a culture for something you don't agree with.

You've not lived in the southern US, and I've not lived in mainland Europe. Of course our viewpoints are very different- but I'm perfectly willing to accept that you feel that firearms are a net negative upon any given society. I believe you should be willing to accept that I feel firearms are neither a net negative nor a net positive upon a given society.

As far as the religion argument goes, you probably think I'm an absolute jackass because I hold rather private beliefs, involving genuine faith in several deities.

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inb4 modern pagan or asutru bullshit

I don't think YOU'RE a jackass for being vehemently opposed to the very idea of a God or Gods. Could you do the same for me, please?




also I LOVE PEPE

[Xant]

about what ?

Guns are a problem more than a solution : http://www.gallup.com/poll/14509/americans-guns-danger-defense.aspx

Guns at home are more dangerous for innocent than robbers and murderes : http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/

http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/another-school-shooting-in-murrica-(oregon-edition)/msg1173014/#msg1173014

And lol @ using a fucking gallup to "prove" guns are a problem.

Muslims anti-terrorists too : http://www.m-a-t.org/

And?

Muslims of the World condamn terrorism : http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/

A few Muslims saying a few words =/= "Muslims of the world"

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Polls.htm

[pepejul]

I don't know what a gall'up is sorry.

So, you agree that all muslim are not all terrorists ? It is a first good thing.  MAybe you'll admit soon that weapons at home are dangerous...

Unfortunatly my english isn't sufficient to debate like I want to.

And to be honest I love history and weapons, I love gunpowdersmell etc.. I have friends hunters and I love the feeling of hot steel on my skin after the shot... I never said I hate guns. (some lowbrained nned to learn how to read) I just say : having a gun at home or in street is more dangerous for pple AND for society.

[Xant]

I don't know what a gall'up is sorry.

So, you agree that all muslim are not all terrorists ? It is a first good thing.

So you agree that you can't refute my arguments? That's what I thought.

[Sandersson Jankins]

I don't know what a gall'up is sorry.

It's just an opinion poll; not rooted in any facts, but only judging the perception of a given population (assuming the poll is done perfectly)

So, you agree that all muslim are not all terrorists ? It is a first good thing.  MAybe you'll admit soon that weapons at home are dangerous...

Nobody is saying that all muslims are terrorists; this is a belief that YOU are putting into other people's mouths to make them look stupid. Some people ARE saying that Islam has a net-negative value on the world today. I'm not saying either of these things. I haven't done enough research.



Unfortunatly my english isn't sufficient to debate like I want to.

And to be honest I love history and weapons, I love gunpowdersmell etc.. I have friends hunters and I love the feeling of hot steel on my skin after the shot... I never said I hate guns. (some lowbrained nned to learn how to read) I just say : having a gun at home or in street is more dangerous for pple AND for society.

I will NOT "admit" (lol) that firearms for the specific purpose of home defense, stored properly and its owners drilled properly are dangerous for anyone abiding by the law. It is unfortunate that many gun-owners are idiotic, but I will not compromise my personal right to self-defense and firearm ownership based upon the fact that many, many people are far more stupid than I am.