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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2015, 12:22:08 pm »
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Sweet summer child. It isn't about equality, only some warped notion of it.

The truth doesn't matter to SJWs, only the narrative does.
Huehuehue So SJW are crypto-marxist who are themselves crypto-oppressors who are themselves crypto-lizard-men?

It's simple as that marxists want the end of capitalism, how does SJW will end capitalism?
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2015, 08:51:39 pm »
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Huehuehue So SJW are crypto-marxist who are themselves crypto-oppressors who are themselves crypto-lizard-men?

I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

It's simple as that marxists want the end of capitalism, how does SJW will end capitalism?

Your interpretation of Marxism is so extremely simplistic it ends up being categorically wrong. If you want to know what I'm talking about, read Marx or some other person's comments on it. More specifically the theory of class struggle. And no, the guy wearing a Che shirt is not the best source of information on Marxism.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2015, 09:27:17 pm »
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I think I heard him in TS years ago in one of the strat battles. Might be another Frenchman though. They all sound alike to me. Anyways, countering his arguments? I agree that SJWs are retarded. Far right is retarded. Islam is retarded too, written to justify the - even at that time's standards - immoral actions of a pretty successful warlord. The reality is that most people are thankfully still moderate. Most "leftists" are moderate. Most conservatives are moderate. Most moslems are moderate. I hope we can build on that and somehow keep the far left/right/retarded in check. Meanwhile the more extreme people could be contained in circle-jerk threads like this.

Filter out Oberyn's profanity and name calling and I think you and he have more in common philosophically than you think. 

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2015, 07:36:00 am »
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I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Your interpretation of Marxism is so extremely simplistic it ends up being categorically wrong. If you want to know what I'm talking about, read Marx or some other person's comments on it. More specifically the theory of class struggle. And no, the guy wearing a Che shirt is not the best source of information on Marxism.

I wouldnt be suprised if Brokar was the guy wearing a Che shirt.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2015, 01:11:30 pm »
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More specifically the theory of class struggle.

Its a theory only, right? Marxists invented it so they could surf on it and get people's vote.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2015, 04:03:39 pm »
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I read the original manifest of the Communist Party by Marx and Engels once...
...nothing stuck except that I was surprised how much of their criticism still fits today's problems, even with the choice of words from back then.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2015, 05:43:08 pm »
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I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Your interpretation of Marxism is so extremely simplistic it ends up being categorically wrong. If you want to know what I'm talking about, read Marx or some other person's comments on it. More specifically the theory of class struggle. And no, the guy wearing a Che shirt is not the best source of information on Marxism.
I made it simplistic so you could see how SWJ absolutely don't follow Marxism goals (never said end of capitalism was the only and final goal). And I advise to read directly the work of Marx instead of the comments that must have distorted your vision of it.

If I had to wear some modern "revolutionary" face on my T-shirt, it might be Etiennne Chouard. Not sure, you can find what he says in English. But one of the things he says is that all those things we always see in the media about abortion, racism, immigration, etc are so secondary compared to the oppression of more than half of the population by those detaining the capital (1% of the population) and are merely means to divide and distract from the important topic (the political system). Here are some extract of his interview for french people: https://blogs.mediapart.fr/edward-sexby/blog/071214/etienne-chouard-le-fascisme-la-droite-et-la-gauche (pas vraiment d'accord avec sa définition du fascisme mais on comprend ce qu'il veut dire).

I have no idea how you manage to fit SWJ "fight" inside class-struggle. Please tell me, quote the passage of Marx where he said video-game should include female character.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2015, 06:11:31 pm »
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I made it simplistic so you could see how SWJ absolutely don't follow Marxism goals (never said end of capitalism was the only and final goal). And I advise to read directly the work of Marx instead of the comments that must have distorted your vision of it.

If I had to wear some modern "revolutionary" face on my T-shirt, it might be Etiennne Chouard. Not sure, you can find what he says in English. But one of the things he says is that all those things we always see in the media about abortion, racism, immigration, etc are so secondary compared to the oppression of more than half of the population by those detaining the capital (1% of the population) and are merely means to divide and distract from the important topic (the political system). Here are some extract of his interview for french people: https://blogs.mediapart.fr/edward-sexby/blog/071214/etienne-chouard-le-fascisme-la-droite-et-la-gauche (pas vraiment d'accord avec sa définition du fascisme mais on comprend ce qu'il veut dire).

I have no idea how you manage to fit SWJ "fight" inside class-struggle. Please tell me, quote the passage of Marx where he said video-game should include female character.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2015, 09:27:24 pm »
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I made it simplistic so you could see how SWJ absolutely don't follow Marxism goals (never said end of capitalism was the only and final goal).

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I have no idea how you manage to fit SWJ "fight" inside class-struggle. Please tell me, quote the passage of Marx where he said video-game should include female character.

Two things: first, I never claimed that SJWs follow the goals of Marxism, because they obviously don't. That single fact alone is merely a difference between the movements. Second, Marxism is first and foremost an ideology, a world-view. It divides people into the bourgeois class and the worker class. Obviously, the bourgeois are oppressors and the workers are oppressed. SJW theory, which dates back to the 60s post-structuralists like Foucault or Butler, is basically the same thing. You replace bourgeois with white male and worker with minorities plus females and that's it. You can argue all you want about one being more legitimate than the other, they are structurally identical. The push for political correctness, diversity quotas and gender-neutral pronouns is systematically "justified" by citing "historical oppression", real or otherwise.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2015, 07:10:36 am »
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2015, 07:57:05 am »
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Trump wants to ban internet as well. #BernieSanders2016
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2015, 09:11:45 am »
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Only from radical Islam.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2015, 04:58:47 pm »
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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2015, 07:01:24 pm »
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Don't worry Clockwork.  Bernie Sanders and Jesus will save the day.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2015, 08:55:23 pm »
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Bernie Sanders is Jesus Christ reborn. A bit old this time around, but that doesn't matter. People live longer these days :mrgreen:

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2000 years ago it wasn't the right time, Father wasn't planned for that period to be when he will return his people back to Israel. But Jews are living in Israel, silly Leshma! No they are not.

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