Marketplace, enough is enough.

[Panos_]

Ok, I think that we need, more than ever, Loompoints to be auctioned by the system or sold like normal items.

Marketplace is full of greedy cunts who want to have it all, making retarded trades.

I remember that loompoints used to cost 380k, not a fucking million.

We need to take the power back, and kick the Poopscammers wannabes in the fucking nuts.

Up your game devs.

[MURDERTRON]

That's what happens when debs arbitrarily decide to go you 3x gold.

[Panos_]

That's what happens when debs arbitrarily decide to go you 3x gold.

What pisses me the most is that more and more people enjoy more jewing at the market, rather than playing the game.

Such a shame, indeed.

I remember a time when the community would bash and shame all those market scammers, rather join them.

[BlackxBird]

I was one like a year ago. Did continuously trades where I did like 20-50 k +, but then I was like yolo I got 25 +3s now. I respeced like 5 items already just cuz I fucking wanted to have another one as fucking fast as possible.

[Macropus]

Marketplace is bad, but I disagree with Panos. It is bad because people don't use it actively (partly because there are less fewer players around.

I'm here just to reiterate my old point which is: bad offers is better than no offers.
Accepting market trades is an option, not an obligatory, and having an extra option just can't be bad.

[Vovka]

wipe all loomz! and moneyz!

[ecorcheur_brokar]

marketplace is bad because gold has no value anymore with x3 gold. It has become impossible to lose gold so everyone has his gold increasing and what you gain from marketplace is ridiculous compared to a few hours of playing.

Calradia has become a banana republic with crazy inflation that no african dictatorship could ever dream of. Even the IMF would consider it a bit too high. Start printing your 1000k billets!!

[Latvian]

selling lp 900k

[Grumbs]

The main problem is the playerbase is so small that there is no room for healthy competition + the actions required to obtain a loom point are prohibitive for most of the playerbase (except for spending monies). If someone puts up a price of 1million for a loompoint and it sells then GG good for him, demand is higher than supply and whoever buys for 1 million felt it was worth the cost. There are things to to do to improve it though, like increasing supply by making it easier to create a loompoint. The only way to get loompoints is to retire, and there are too many downsides to retiring atm such as:

Game is mechanically harder than it used to be pre-destiny patch, so you need a high level character to compete. More lethal, faster, spammier, less forgiving
Free respecs every week make retiring obsolete for people who just want to play different builds
People already have plenty of looms, they just want stuff for the sake of it. So going through the retirement process is pretty unlikely for most players
Edit forgot a big one, lvl 35 STF's - why go through leveling to 35 just for 1 loompoint when you can skip it all AND make more money since you can roll x5 better

I don't think loompoints should be the goal with retiring though, there should be a different form of reward. Like you just straight get a +3 item of your choice when you retire. I'd like to see a more barter based economy too, with people making straight trades rather than +3 + gold for a +3. That to me is obnoxious and money grubbing. The people who can be bothered to do those dodgy deals already have plenty of money, its just greed

[Pandemona]

I think the best and most simple solution to this would be making ''Reforge'' option give us 3 loompoints instead of 2 per item. We have definetly lesser players playing this mod than used to and it effects marketplace aswell.

Marketplace is in pretty bad condition at the moment there aren't much items/sellers and when you are trying to find an item you need, most of the times you either can't find it or find offers cost you more than they actually worth. It's quite hard to find a fair offer in the marketplace. I'm not telling this towards anyone, this has been an issue for very long time in my opinion.

Changing ''Reforge'' option to give us 3 loompoints instead of 2 will give all of us chance to try different builds and different weapons more easily if people think 3 loompoints are too much let's make that option cost 100k gold or something like that. This might also cause more loompoints going around in the market and might even lower the loompoint prices, but i am not sure about the last thing.

My post in similar thread and i am still of the same mind.

[Bronto]

In a similar thread I too posted to allow the reforge option at all loom levels for exactly what you put in. +1 item you hate, reforge it for a loom point. Hey you just spent 2 gens on gloves that you don't think look swag enough for your badass character, reforge them for 2 loom points. You wasted three gens heirlooming your horse and now you hate cav, reforge it for 3 loom points. It's not rocket science but maybe make it allowable like once per week, same as free respec.

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[Novamere]

Last i heard they were trying to implement something where you can buy a LP anytime for 300k or 400k but this was months ago so idk, Coding something like that to the website would not be too hard but would need the chadz/CMP stamp which is hard to get.

[McKli_PL]

Option F:) God i agree with Panos yeah its all true! got question for admins it's possible to hardcap loompoints for price eg 500k on market and everyone can just buy it?

[Admerius]

Suggestions:

1. Temporary compromise solution(temporary as: hot fix before dec 2010 patch)
Remove the ability to sell trade Loompoints away(aka. offer)!
OBS! Buy orders(aka. requests) for loompoints must remain!

2.0. REad this carefully: By loompoints I mean: any loomed gear or loompoint on ALL characters on that account
For example: +3 item counts as 3 loompoints.
Which means:
+3 weapon=3
+3 weapon and shield=6
Fully loomed 2h/polearm hero(6 +3 items)=18
Fully loomed lance cav with 2 sidearms(9 +3 items)=27

2.a. Introduce Loomtax!
Multiply gold earned by 0,99 for each loompoint on that account

Which means:

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Loompoints
total                         tick value at x1
1 149
3 146
6 141
18 125
21 121
27 114
30 111
60 82
100 55


2.b Market fee based on amounts of looms on account
This fee is added on all types of market transactions/auctions etc.

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Loompoints total Market fee
1 10
3 90
6 360
18 3240
21 4410
27 7290
30 9000
60 36000
100 100000


3. Go full mcintosh!
Collectivize all loom points in "Proletariat Armoury" and the lowest level character that wants one gets the item for 72 hours, any player which is lower level than anyone else who wants it will automatically get it and the higher level char that had it will lose it.
Of course we need a bureaucracy for this and they should be rewarded for their selfless act of administrating this by being counted as level 0(they should always get any loomed item Regardless of the level of who is using it currently.)

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[Dupre]

Going back to x1 or x2 on gold multiplier. Also raising the repair cost to some heavy armor and weapons. There will also be more tournaments where players can win multiple lps including DTV, possibly siege, and a donkey race  .

This should lower some of the market prices on lps...

Also flash sales...