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State of throwing
« on: July 09, 2015, 01:21:14 pm »
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I came here to say its
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op, throwers  have: jump throwing, rediculous damage, shield breaking, horse rearing, are to
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potent in melee, to high succesion in lance throwing. these are unbiased sincere remarks. i suggest , throwings melee capability gets ultra nerfed,( melee stat nerf) and the succesion speed of throws gets tweaked( bigger time gaps inbetween throws ).
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some accuracy and damage nerf woould also be in place, but thats just wishfull thinking i guess
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 01:55:48 pm »
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Reduce accuracy + damage. Leave jump throwing so they have something unique about them
Xbows should be +1 slots
Archers should have more penalties for wearing armour. Could wear my heavy plate and still have a tight reticule with 8PD + 150 WPF
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 02:11:09 pm »
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Reduce accuracy + damage. Leave jump throwing so they have something unique about them
Xbows should be +1 slots
Archers should have more penalties for wearing armour. Could wear my heavy plate and still have a tight reticule with 8PD + 150 WPF

Approved.

However I think crossbow missile speed should be increased if +1 slot. Otherwise good post.

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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 02:16:24 pm »
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2015, 02:24:22 pm »
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So you still wear
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There is a reason to use shields and heavy armor, you would just rule the scoreboard all alone if everything gets nerfed the way you would need it  :wink:

36/15 tincan here (6 IF), I eat throwing lances for breakfast.
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2015, 02:56:28 pm »
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33 12 here and full loomed plate armor.

The problem is not that throwers are doing too much dmg QQ or are too good in melee.

The problem is:

As long as they have something to throw, nobody can kill them

They don't have anything that balances them
Cuz: Cav can't attack them cuz 2 throwing lances and cav dead.
Archers will be one or two hit by throwing daggers
Crossbows are far too slow
Melee can't catch them and those ones who are as fast as they are get rekt by cut throwing shit

Throwing should not get less dmg, and not less speed.
Nerf their accuracy.
Fucking make their crosshair as big as their desktop.


Oh and btw when I fight alone vs. 3 guys it's for me possible to kill them, not easy but possible.
But when I fight against one enemy and a thrower with stones I'm as good as dead.

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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2015, 03:41:48 pm »
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Reduce accuracy + damage. Leave jump throwing so they have something unique about them
Xbows should be +1 slots
Archers should have more penalties for wearing armour. Could wear my heavy plate and still have a tight reticule with 8PD + 150 WPF

Archers dont even wear plate even if they can, so I dont see the point. Also vs throwers, get a shield (love saying that).
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2015, 04:18:30 pm »
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get a shield, but they will break it  :? i use a shield still get recked
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2015, 04:57:09 pm »
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Archers dont even wear plate even if they can, so I dont see the point. Also vs throwers, get a shield (love saying that).

The fact you can have all those penalties from heavy armour and still have a tight crosshair indicates a problem with some of their stats imo. Don't think it was like this last patch
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2015, 05:21:03 pm »
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The fact you can have all those penalties from heavy armour and still have a tight crosshair indicates a problem with some of their stats imo. Don't think it was like this last patch

It does make them a bit worse but its playable, no good archer would chose plate though, you dont get anything from it because you lose too much mobility as an archer already, more on top of that and well, it just sucks. Penalties or not, its still poop.
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2015, 09:08:52 am »
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Reduce accuracy + damage. Leave jump throwing so they have something unique about them
Xbows should be +1 slots
Archers should have more penalties for wearing armour. Could wear my heavy plate and still have a tight reticule with 8PD + 150 WPF

Xbow is the range class least deserving of a nerf imo. but at the same time it does need changed but not in the nerfing or buffing kind of way.

I feel like in general range is just way to accurate even with low investment.

I agree with Rufio and black bird that throwing is OP because it has no counters. It is much like horse archery where you have to wait for the rider to make a mistake to kill them or until they run out of ammo. the difference between the two is Horse archery's arrows tickle.
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2015, 09:42:27 am »
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the only thing about throwing that needs to be nerfed imo is the speed and damage of the melee mode throwing lances. Hell, the animation is almost invisible with 15 fps, even harder to block, and the instahit on stab is also ridiculous, i often got 1hit by a stab of that thing...

I played thrower myself for some time, and yes, it was quite op but in the end it was impossible to play due to too low fps :|

tldr; nerf melee mode throwing lances speed and damage
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2015, 11:38:48 am »
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I like to look at the average score of classes to judge how big their impact is on the rounds. Ranged and throwing are barely ever in the top,  allthough xbow seem to outperform the others. If they arent impacting the game beyond being annoying, then i really dont think they should be nerfed. Atleast let them be able to do what they do now, otherwise im just going to rage more at how little they contribute. Because im already believing a team of infantry and cav would be way stronger than a team of ranged, or a mixed team.
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2015, 11:53:38 am »
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throwers top scoreboards shitloads of the time, u fuckface
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Re: State of throwing
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 12:14:41 pm »
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33 12 here and full loomed plate armor.
Archers will be one or two hit by throwing daggers
Crossbows are far too slow

Wrong! Archers are the tankier ones these days as high PD is favourable therefore more strength, this also makes them fairly average on speed. Crossbowmen on the other hand get like 10 athletics as they need no more than 18 strength for an arbalest.

Otherwise, I agree!