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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2015, 04:59:30 pm »
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Greece survived from far worst scenarios than a default, and in all honesty i`m sick and tired of reading all of  your "you owe us money" posts

From what I've read and heard I think I can safely say that here, in POland, people are sick and tired of reading that Greece don't want to cut social benefits to pay their debts while Greece is still richer country than Poland. You have higher average salary, higher retirement payment and lower retirement age than in POland. So yeah, I think that's quite commonly shared impression that Greeks are lazy, fat fucks, who cheat at taxes, who cheat their own country and EU, who are too lazy and spoiled by all the money which they got from EU to get their shit together and pay their fucking debts. Look at the baltic countries, which in the face of crisis cut heavily social benefits and managed to work out the sollution without big, external help.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2015, 05:06:15 pm »
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The only absurd thing here is your post.


Europeans think that the money that they gave to Greeks went straight to our pockets, which is really retarded to think about it.

95% of the money that Greece borrowed the last 5 years, all went straight to the banks.

Sure, there are plenty  Greeks who tax evade and are corrupted, but please don`t pretend like there is corruption only in Greece, besides, the three biggest corruption scandals in the last 50 years of Greece`s history, involve German companies.


Did you know that in 2004 the Germans loaned money to Greece, and with the same money the Greek government bought military submarines from Germany, and the funniest thing is that the sub`s were broken.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/19/greece-military-spending-debt-crisis

http://www.lepointinternational.com/it/politica/europa/550-the-submarine-deals-that-helped-sink-greece-.html


I know that you being a Finn is hard being neutral, since your country is probably the biggest muppet that Germany has, Merkel says jump and you say how high, but for fuck sake, do some research before writing bullshit like that.

Sure, Greeks arent saints, but we aint the devil either.


Tomorrow I`m gonna vote No, and deep inside I wish that Greece defaults, and all of you "higher than thou" punks lose 320b euros, let`s see if you`re gonna like that.

Greece survived from far worst scenarios than a default, and in all honesty i`m sick and tired of reading all of  your "you owe us money" posts, while Greeks commit suicide every day.

8.000 suicides since 2009 and counting, thank you European bros.
Yes, yes, Greece was doing so well before they got given the loan, that's why they got it in the first place, because they were doing so well. Am I right? Stupid banks, ruining Greece! Doing so well on its own, the people are hardworking taxpayers.

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2015, 05:10:51 pm »
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From what I've read and heard I think I can safely say that here, in POland, people are sick and tired of reading that Greece don't want to cut social benefits to pay their debts while Greece is still richer country than Poland. You have higher average salary, higher retirement payment and lower retirement age than in POland. So yeah, I think that's quite commonly shared impression that Greeks are lazy, fat fucks, who cheat at taxes, who cheat their own country and EU, who are too lazy and spoiled by all the money which they got from EU to get their shit together and pay their fucking debts. Look at the baltic countries, which in the face of crisis cut heavily social benefits and managed to work out the sollution without big, external help.


The percentage of Greeks who cheat taxes is no more than 10%, and most of them are the richer Greeks who have their money in Swiss banks or other tax free paradises.

Instead of trying to bring others down, try to improve yourself first.

It`s not like Poland is heaven on earth full with law abidding citizens.


Yes, yes, Greece was doing so well before they got given the loan, that's why they got it in the first place, because they were doing so well. Am I right? Stupid banks, ruining Greece! Doing so well on its own, the people are hardworking taxpayers.

 :lol:


The workes of the private sector are the most hardworking workes of all the eu, working more than all of the EU, while getting paid less than most. On the other hand, the public servers are those to blame for the laziness that follows Greeks.

And besides, I never said that Greeks shoule be left out of the blame,  on the contrary I`m from those guys who think that tax evaders shoule be put in jail and have their stuff evicted.
 
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2015, 06:00:37 pm »
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Wait, that's actually what EU people see? Holy fuck, I didn't know they were that dumb/blind.

Not really. Just here. Because we barely have any colored folk or people from different cultures. So they are kinda rare and scary to us. And when it appears that someone is twisting our arms and forcing us to take them in, we look for someone to blame. Like people usually do. And blaming countries is extremely easy, unlike blaming individuals. It also helps the blamegame that majority of us don't really know shit about Italy.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2015, 06:05:26 pm »
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Greece only way of surviving is joining a mega alliance with Russia or randomly attacking Macedonia/Turkey/Bulgaria etc... and hoping some country defeats them and annexes Greece and thus they get debt free (lel)
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2015, 06:30:43 pm »
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Yes, yes, Greece was doing so well before they got given the loan, that's why they got it in the first place, because they were doing so well. Am I right? Stupid banks, ruining Greece! Doing so well on its own, the people are hardworking taxpayers.

 :lol:

Except the massive deficit in national budget came from an economic recession caused by the collapse of big banks and the government being forced to bail them out.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2015, 06:45:14 pm »
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I doubt it. We are quite easly prone to the typical mishaps of capitalistic ruling. The fact that we dont have oil or absolutely any resource at all, is what kinda forces us to develop in other industries. If we had oil, we would fit in the capitalistic mold quick and become lazy spenders. We would instantly fall to those extremes. The fact that we cant just pump money out of our assholes like Saudi-Arabia makes us really careful.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2015, 07:05:38 pm »
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Not really. Just here. Because we barely have any colored folk or people from different cultures. So they are kinda rare and scary to us. And when it appears that someone is twisting our arms and forcing us to take them in, we look for someone to blame. Like people usually do. And blaming countries is extremely easy, unlike blaming individuals. It also helps the blamegame that majority of us don't really know shit about Italy.
our laws are literally fucked up , government is the only blaming other eu countries for not helping us with this situation with immigrants.
we stupidly let them in like fucking disneyland and we don't have the money nor the structures to keep them.
they don't create income because they would rarely stay here to work , who is staying here is manteined  by the government , they have a respectable home and a monthly "payment" while our people is struggling ending the month.
France is smart and refuse to let them enter , so is other countries.
too bad mafia is earning so much money with immigration and you know , our politician are involved too in this shit so gg , we are going to face the same sitauation as greece if we are keeping those things as it is.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2015, 07:26:33 pm »
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As long as I can still get my hands on that tastyass Greek food Idc what happens to that country. Damn that's some good eating.
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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2015, 07:42:22 pm »
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I doubt it. We are quite easly prone to the typical mishaps of capitalistic ruling. The fact that we dont have oil or absolutely any resource at all, is what kinda forces us to develop in other industries. If we had oil, we would fit in the capitalistic mold quick and become lazy spenders. We would instantly fall to those extremes. The fact that we cant just pump money out of our assholes like Saudi-Arabia makes us really careful.

For some reason Latvian and Lithuanian debt has grown considerably after the crisis but Estonian is still super low. Can you explain why?

If you guys (Latvians) help Mikrotik grow, you could have major player in IT industry in the years to come. Huawei started doing same things as Mikrotik and nowadays they are in top 5 IT corporations in the world. Mikrotik could be your Nokia.

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2015, 07:56:23 pm »
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I really have no clue. Baltics generally have intertwined faiths. If something hits one it hits all 3. My best guess is that it has something to do with the fact that Estonia desperately tries to sell itself and go for being a massive IT-country.  Quite simply put the pay for IT is very high here and the work ethics are very solid. Many experts state that there is a very high demand but not enough people to supply it in Estonia. Figuratively they said that money is just laying on the floor and nobody is here to pick it up when it comes to IT. And im quessing they are starting to find people to pick it up. If it aint that, I have no clue.

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2015, 08:07:47 pm »
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France is smart and refuse to let them enter , so is other countries.

Yeah, there is no difference whatsoever between refusing entry to people on your border and refusing entry to a floating wreck full of people (the fuck are you supposed to do? Shoot it?).

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2015, 08:11:28 pm »
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Put em in your more stable ship and send em back. There really is no room, resources and honestly even tolerance for it.

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2015, 08:19:14 pm »
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Put em in your more stable ship and send em back. There really is no room, resources and honestly even tolerance for it.

i hear sweden will take anybody, just send em north.

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Re: RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2015, 08:26:08 pm »
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Put em in your more stable ship and send em back. There really is no room, resources and honestly even tolerance for it.

Very gud solution, they will definitely not turn back and try again. Scout's honor.
Also Libya is totally gonna let us dump people that aren't even coming from there.