Author Topic: Wonderful, after the DLC/Patch rip offs, gamers will pay for mods now aswell!  (Read 5989 times)

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DLC was already a fucking farce, but it's become the new normal. Why do you think the term "expansion pack" has dissapeared to be replaced by "DLC"? Gee, couldn't possibly be a deliberate marketing strategy to fool idiots into paying more for less, nope. It's the boiled frog analogy.

What you are angry at is clever people taking advantage of the micro-transaction bias. Stirner would definitely not be happy with you.

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And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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heh, the kind of shit that makes into articles on kotaku

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DLC was already a fucking farce, but it's become the new normal. Why do you think the term "expansion pack" has dissapeared to be replaced by "DLC"? Gee, couldn't possibly be a deliberate marketing strategy to fool idiots into paying more for less, nope. It's the boiled frog analogy.

Depends on the type of DLC. You have your good DLC such as Paradox games or Tripwire that include content developed after the game is already fully released. This content helps justify continuing development on the core of the game by patching as well as providing new content. I don't see why mods can't do the same thing but add even more content to the game.
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GTA V is still good DLC wise. All completely free DLC and if they do release in the future DLC that costs money it'll most likely be like Lost and Damned/The Ballad of Gay Tony etc..

And they could've totally went with having to pay for certain stuff in GTA Online but they didn't. Except Shark Cards but u can still get easy money without em (even though i wasted a ton of money into em).
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Paid mods are removed from Steam.
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Part of Valve conclusion: "We understand our own game’s communities pretty well, but stepping into an established, years old modding community in Skyrim was probably not the right place to start iterating. We think this made us miss the mark pretty badly, even though we believe there’s a useful feature somewhere here."

I don't think we're really safe, he's almost saying we will do it to smaller game and when you get used to it we'll charge back on bigger game.
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Part of Valve conclusion: "We understand our own game’s communities pretty well, but stepping into an established, years old modding community in Skyrim was probably not the right place to start iterating. We think this made us miss the mark pretty badly, even though we believe there’s a useful feature somewhere here."

I don't think we're really safe, he's almost saying we will do it to smaller game and when you get used to it we'll charge back on bigger game.

That pic I posted is sad, but true. Games are going to be more and more content-empty in the future, thanks to the likes of EA, Valves, Overkill, etc. Everything will have to be bought in a few years, mods are the next thing to be sold for money, like Brokar said.


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The "community" did a good job here, making them do a total 180.

Although from the statement, it sounds like they're still going to do it. Probably going a lot slower this time, so people won't even realize what happened when we're back at this point.
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Paid mods are removed from Steam.

Hehe this played out pretty much the way I thought it would. I never got to play Skyrim with my wooden PC so I thought why not buy it now from this sale. Now I has free mods as well, yay :D.

Paid mods isn't that bad idea in my opinion, but the way they did it in this case wasn't very good. One does not simply take several years old game with big modding community and suddenly make dramatic changes to the way it operates. A structure of overlapping mods is already in place because people have cooperated and borrowed stuff from other modders. The way to implement paid mods is to do it from day1. Preferably leaning towards encouraged donation way. Everyone who mods games with paid mod system knows the deal and the modding community is built on that system.

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It also puts game devs in a shitty position. We would like to have a thriving mod community in Melee Battlegrounds. How would you go about that now? Disallow paid mods? "wat, i cant sell my mods in this game? then i'll mod for xyz, there i can sell it!". Allow paid mods? "So it's only about money grabbing". It's kind of a lose-lose situation

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It also puts game devs in a shitty position. We would like to have a thriving mod community in Melee Battlegrounds. How would you go about that now? Disallow paid mods? "wat, i cant sell my mods in this game? then i'll mod for xyz, there i can sell it!". Allow paid mods? "So it's only about money grabbing". It's kind of a lose-lose situation

That is a good point... Especially if the attitudes towards paid modding aren't changing. I just like the idea of modders getting some compensation for their stuff (without getting into legal grey areas). If money becomes the main motivation for modding it's bad obviously.
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http://www.bethblog.com/2015/04/27/why-were-trying-paid-skyrim-mods-on-steam/

Eventually, the attitudes will change. Next TES will probably launch with paid mods support, and it might even be a good thing.

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It also puts game devs in a shitty position. We would like to have a thriving mod community in Melee Battlegrounds. How would you go about that now? Disallow paid mods? "wat, i cant sell my mods in this game? then i'll mod for xyz, there i can sell it!". Allow paid mods? "So it's only about money grabbing". It's kind of a lose-lose situation
Offer modders the creation of a "donation"-button.
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