Adjust xp & gold gain

[War_Ferret]

Hmm, ok. Didn't know that. They should just fix it then, and rewards will be properly adjusted.

[pepejul]

Nerf gold and XP and then buff them !

[Patoson]

I've added another option to "remove DTV" and reset the votes. I've changed my mind and agree, more and more, with people who want DTV to be removed and make everyone play "real" game-modes. I agree both in the challenging aspect of the game-modes and in the detriment of the servers' population.

I hate to see that cRPG has come from my favourite PvP mod for Warband to become a boring game-mode full of leechers and nervous people. If you can't help getting mad in a game, at least play a real game-mode where you can't leech so easily.

[Falka]

(click to show/hide)

Another example of the braindead level DTV has reached. This time they decided to make the shieldwall much closer to the bot spawn, instead of in a line with the ballista platform, but it's basically the same. Some players are forced to leech because there's no space for everyone to fight.

(click to show/hide)

In the next video, you'll see that, while I was uploading the previous one, I rejoined the server to find out that it's playable (the way it's played) with a ping over 600. The rest of the video shows the dullness of most of the maps.

(click to show/hide)

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

(click to show/hide)

The old village maps were quite open, like old Battle maps, and you could play DTV as if it were Battle, but against a noob mob that always charges in tight formation and chambers a lot. You could argue that's dull too, but I liked it. For a lot of us who have enjoyed the old DTV, this new rotation consisting of 99% tiny maps made for skill-less "tactics" is boring and frustrating when you are forced to either leech or leave the server because there is no room for everyone to fight, or you get bored after "x" rounds standing still and spamming overhead.

Sea Raid and Thermopylae (those shown in the videos) are the biggest grindfest cases in DTV now, and the xp and gold gain in those maps is insane.

(click to show/hide)

All praise Fips, the great thinker, who introduced new "no more exploiting" DTV.

[POOPHAMMER]

DTV needs to go. This is not what cRPG was designed for. Why give more reward for people killing bots? Some may argue it is to encourage new platyers, but new and old only play it because battle/siege is so unrewarding in comparison. Why not encourage people to play the real mode? Maybe give xp/gold the old system (proximity) on top of the ticks. So if you were close to a kill, give a bonus xp gold for that kill. This would not only discourage leeching in battle, but even if you are leeching and near a kill you provide a distraction for good players to kill a peasant, while the players can kill the other. Maybe I am just dumb, but I think adding the old proximity gold/xp to reward people who support the kill will not only will help with the DTV issue, it will actually make you feel like you are rewarded for being the stabbing pike guy or the backup slash that resulted in a kill, feel like you actually are being rewarded for playing.

I like the XP/gold ticks, but I feel like we should also be rewarded for being in the range of the kill, because just being near an enemy, having you being one more person to look out for, is contributing.

[ecorcheur_brokar]

DTV reward should get that big only for the two last waves as a major reward for managing to finish it completly (and that doesnt happen often).

Otherwise, reward for the other waves should go back to their previous version.

[NJ_Legion_Icedtea]

Removing DTV surely would do no good? Yes some people would then switch to play siege or battle, but only increasing their population by a max of 15 each. And some may not even switch to the other game modes.

Honestly if you want me to start playing battle again I would like the attitude to the mode to change, more formations, group fighting etc. which I agree is hard for such small server populations. As for siege I personally just find too many maps which I don't like playing on.

[Patoson]

Well, I've come to hate DTV, because of the new rotation, the new absurd rewards, which make it more of a grindfest. Instead of a pseudo-battle mode where you fought bots instead of players, now it's just a mode where it takes 0 skill to win and still people bitch all the time about stupid things.

By removing DTV, cRPG would just be like during its origins (a "PvP" mod), and my best memories of this mod are from battle or siege, not DTV.

You could argue that it's a good game-mode for beginners, but so are the other game-modes. Sure, it's tough for a beginner to fight veteran players, but so is in every other online game, and, the harder it is, the faster you learn.

And if it takes away players from the other game-modes, and balance in the mod is directed towards "PvP", then DTV makes even less sense.

[pepejul]

I totally agree.... just 2 guys with mauls guarding an gate and killing 50 bots each hitspamming like tards isn't a game I want play to....

[Uther Pendragon]

Throw out the Fips' maps, half the rewards. No patches or fixes will ever change the people's greed so as long as eu7 is more profitable than other servers, they'll just go and play there.

Removing the retarded maps that require 0 thinking to advance and reducing the gold and exp gain should fuel some players back to eu1/eu2.

But if you think removing DTV altogether will fix anything, then you're fucking delusional.

[Leshma]

Make bots stronger hitting but slower and with less HP. Open maps mean nothing if you can't utilize them, because you need a lot of AGI to be able to s key bots. When you have too much AGI you don't deal enough damage to bots. DTV is very build restrictive if we're talking about proper way of playing it.

Few years ago I could s key a train of bots into tight spaces and never get crowded. Some may find that lame but it is way more fun than staying in shieldwall or some tight space.

If you think bots would be too easy if you lower their level or change build, then give every bot skill set like those special bots have (chambering, feinting). But these current bots are lame, can survive ton of hits and are too fast. They aren't what I would call challenging, they are boring just like fighting a queen with ton of HP in some jRPG game.

[Linza]

Make bots stronger hitting but slower and with less HP. Open maps mean nothing if you can't utilize them, because you need a lot of AGI to be able to s key bots. When you have too much AGI you don't deal enough damage to bots. DTV is very build restrictive if we're talking about proper way of playing it.

Few years ago I could s key a train of bots into tight spaces and never get crowded. Some may find that lame but it is way more fun than staying in shieldwall or some tight space.

If you think bots would be too easy if you lower their level or change build, then give every bot skill set like those special bots have (chambering, feinting). But these current bots are lame, can survive ton of hits and are too fast. They aren't what I would call challenging, they are boring just like fighting a queen with ton of HP in some jRPG game.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login