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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #195 on: January 08, 2015, 05:33:28 pm »
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I was being a bit edgy on purpose there. IDK about lazy, probably not. But corrupt they are. I've lost all illusions to how corruption damages a society in Poland. It leads to massive, massive waste of resources, money, health, mental health and justice.

IDK if I want to blame austerity economics or buy that it's a neoliberal dogma. I'm probably a somewhat modern socialist.. I want to stop accumulation of massive wealth through generations. We can have rich people in the world, but they would have had to earn it themselves, not inherit it.  I believe everyone should have a fair start in life, and relative safety if bad luck stacks up against someone, and I believe the state should provide this.

I hate dogmatic ideas on both left and right. Capitalism is awesome, and so are socialist ideas. You just have to dare to mix them in a sensible way. Stop accumulation of wealth by taxing the super rich people very hard when they die. (And lowering taxes for young people who need to set up shop. ) A meritocratic capitalism, with socialism at the bottom creating stable societies. Believe me, capitalism wouldn't be so bad if the world wasn't owned by 5% of the people..

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #196 on: January 08, 2015, 05:34:41 pm »
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We could start by not allowing deranged salafists funded by the Gulf countries (and deobandis for pakistanis) to openly preach for violence and hatred in european mosques. I agree, it's time to stop homogenizing Islam. Moderates want to distance themselves from extremists? Then DO SO. We know which sects are the problem. Openly reject them, stop allowing them to own the identity.
Nope, "moderate Islam" will just make statements to the news how they oppose radical Islam, but won't actually do anything about it, instead choosing to shelter fundamentalists and aid them in other ways, or at best, just ignore what they're doing.
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #197 on: January 08, 2015, 05:36:25 pm »
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #198 on: January 08, 2015, 05:47:41 pm »
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There is no islamic invasion in France.... many french ARE muslim now.... We are LAÏC country and all religions can be used there. Muslims are citizen like others while they respect rules... and majority of them respect rules.

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #199 on: January 08, 2015, 06:07:07 pm »
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There is no islamic invasion in France.... many french ARE muslim now.... We are LAÏC country and all religions can be used there. Muslims are citizen like others while they respect rules... and majority of them respect rules.

That is true for black pple, brown pple, Jews, muslims, buddhists and of course tching tchong pple !

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #200 on: January 08, 2015, 06:22:05 pm »
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Mind-check:

1. The fanatic murderers fron paris have founded their actions with the defence of Islam.
This is an other proof of the fact that we have to protect our society better against Islam.

[ ] I agree
[ ] I disagree


2.The fanatic murderer Anders Breivik has founded his actions with the defence of the occident.
This is an other proof of the fact that we have to protect our society better against occidential values.

[ ] I agree
[ ] I disagree

3.The fanatic murderers from the NSU have founded their actions with the defence of the white race.
This is an other proof of the fact that we have to protect our society better against people with white skin.

[ ] I agree
[ ] I disagree

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #201 on: January 08, 2015, 06:27:55 pm »
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as for racism that comes into play with the profiling lombardsoup is in favour of as an elegant solution.

Eh? Dunno what does it mean.

And the Nazism? Ok, you've decided that for one specific religion you'll change your immigration policy and set a precedent for special negative treatment of that particular religious group,

As a discrimination because of religion it's obviously not possible in any democratic, european country. What is possible is closing borders for everyone outside of european union, problem solved  8-)
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #202 on: January 08, 2015, 06:40:16 pm »
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There is no islamic invasion in France.... many french ARE muslim now.... We are LAÏC country and all religions can be used there. Muslims are citizen like others while they respect rules... and majority of them respect rules.

That is true for black pple, brown pple, Jews, muslims, buddhists and of course tching tchong pple !

I guess frenchies are doing the same as us swedes.

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #203 on: January 08, 2015, 07:04:20 pm »
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I was being a bit edgy on purpose there. IDK about lazy, probably not. But corrupt they are. I've lost all illusions to how corruption damages a society in Poland. It leads to massive, massive waste of resources, money, health, mental health and justice.

IDK if I want to blame austerity economics or buy that it's a neoliberal dogma. I'm probably a somewhat modern socialist.. I want to stop accumulation of massive wealth through generations. We can have rich people in the world, but they would have had to earn it themselves, not inherit it.  I believe everyone should have a fair start in life, and relative safety if bad luck stacks up against someone, and I believe the state should provide this.

I hate dogmatic ideas on both left and right. Capitalism is awesome, and so are socialist ideas. You just have to dare to mix them in a sensible way. Stop accumulation of wealth by taxing the super rich people very hard when they die. (And lowering taxes for young people who need to set up shop. ) A meritocratic capitalism, with socialism at the bottom creating stable societies. Believe me, capitalism wouldn't be so bad if the world wasn't owned by 5% of the people..

Why should I be a capitalist and risk my capital when the government confiscates the fruits of my labor and effort?  I'll just not try very hard and live on socialist programs and money taken from the rich (as long as they last or don't emigrate to a lower tax country).  That should work well for me until all the money from the rich is gone, or they all stop trying like I did. 
And we all know how efficient governments are at allocating and distributing resources.  Just look at the beautiful double layer of bureaucracy established by the EU in Brussels.  That's how I want my tax dollars spent!

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #204 on: January 08, 2015, 07:16:36 pm »
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There is no islamic invasion in France.... many french ARE muslim now.... We are LAÏC country and all religions can be used there. Muslims are citizen like others while they respect rules... and majority of them respect rules.

That is true for black pple, brown pple, Jews, muslims, buddhists and of course tching tchong pple !

There very much is an invasion of Europe by muslims who do not assimilate.  Which means a fair amount of them do not respect the rules, vis a vis sharia law and honor killings.  When they become a majority they will change the rules that you now respect to different rules.  When Hirsi Ali, a Somalian asylum seeker in Holland, became a member of the Dutch parliament she was able to have Dutch police start to log the cause of murders in the immigrant muslim communities.  A surprisingly large number were "honor killings".  Before her action this was ignored and just passed off as "regular" murder.  This is significant because it indicates that muslims, unlike other immigrant groups do not want to become part of the society that they come to.  Speaking in generalities here of course.  Not all muslims are same in this regard.

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #205 on: January 08, 2015, 07:23:59 pm »
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I guess frenchies are doing the same as us swedes.

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Btw the jews are behind it all.

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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #206 on: January 08, 2015, 08:06:03 pm »
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Thanks for sharing your life's story with us. Much appreciated.
And yes, they frighten me way more. Simply because the spew bullshit which isn't supported anywhere with hard facts. On the contrary, the pure numbers show a whole different picture of migration. At least it does clearly and undeniably in/for Germany. But hey, numbers, alphabet, books, education... ain't your thing, I know. Being the school drop-out you are. Instead you rather post videos of someone who takes over the thinking for you. So much more comfortable compared to actually read up on stuff. Anyway...

Today 11 people died in Paris. Anyone cares to Google what the daily rate of murder is for Paris? Maybe even for France? What about Frankfurt? Germany? Maybe New York?

I just wonder how murder, no matter how and where, can be categorized differently? How is murdering an old woman for a few bucks in her flat less bad then murdering someone for a silly picture? Cuz that is what you are doing frankly.

"Uhh, they are muslims, terrorists. That murder is like really bad and we all gonna die..." Nobody gives a shit about all the other daily murder. That's just statistics. And that Christo, is why you're statement is just plain stupid. How many people are murdered in Hungary daily? Are those less bad than those in Paris? Have to be I guess cuz those weren't done by muslims, right?

That's the stupid and silly bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

I'm out - not continuing this useless discussion.

I know what you would say if the attackers were na zis, haha.


What makes this is attack so frightening is because muslim terrorists are a GROUP, people that identify themselves and often connect through an ideology. Same goes for crimes by chocolate chip cookies ofcourse. And because groups are often organized and can be very influential, they become a political problem. That's exactly what is the case here. And the causes are, that the whole terroristic alert level of the country has to be lifted and even of the whole world. So that's the difference between these islamic motivated terrorist and single perpretators.


I think there are many sane muslims and there has to be a huge differenciation between them and radicals, they condemn violance as we do. I would say maybe 10% of muslims are radical, if I trust a recent statistic. That percentage only seems higher...maybe I'm wrong, but I know many muslims that are no more violent than we are and take religious jokes very easily...
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #207 on: January 08, 2015, 08:13:19 pm »
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And ofcourse, nothing will be done. The western world will continue to deny any sort of Muslim problem, all while ragheads massacre everyone.

The only thing the goat-fuckers deserve is a bullet.
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #208 on: January 08, 2015, 08:15:28 pm »
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Why should I be a capitalist and risk my capital when the government confiscates the fruits of my labor and effort?  I'll just not try very hard and live on socialist programs and money taken from the rich (as long as they last or don't emigrate to a lower tax country).  That should work well for me until all the money from the rich is gone, or they all stop trying like I did. 
And we all know how efficient governments are at allocating and distributing resources.  Just look at the beautiful double layer of bureaucracy established by the EU in Brussels.  That's how I want my tax dollars spent!

One could tax rich and poor less for all I care. The point is to stop the accumulation of great wealth inherited by individuals by taxing people when they die. For example, Bill Gates would have to sell 95% of his MS shares to pay it, or the state would do it after he's dead. That way, state won't own the companies, but would get huge incomes so they could tax everyone else less. This would assure that performers, not inheritors would be the ones to get rich. And jobs and positions that are today reserved for the born-rich, will be available for anyone to apply to.

Inheriting stuff is not meritocratic, it's Aristocratic.  This is not radical socialist ideas btw.. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are strong proponents of taxing people hard when they die.

So what I think is simply that you would get taxed less in such system, but if you become very very rich, you won't be able to give off that all that wealth to your kids.
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Re: Satiric newspaper attacked in France
« Reply #209 on: January 08, 2015, 08:43:17 pm »
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And ofcourse, nothing will be done. The western world will continue to deny any sort of Muslim problem, all while ragheads massacre everyone.

The only thing the goat-fuckers deserve is a bullet.
It's the worst in Europe where the governments have systematically disarmed the populace - and obviously the cops can't protect you from extremist violence - so all you can do is "hope it won't happen to you."

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