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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2011, 04:41:38 pm »
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Congrats you outsmarted simplistic stupid AI.  Whats next, your return to World of Warcraft?

Don't knock it until you pull the same thing in DTV. Anyone can beat a bot, not many can beat a legion of them with stupid high numbers and with no range or cav. The bots can and will even chamber block, some have shield breakers, some waves are nothing but knockdowN crushthrough spammers.
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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2011, 08:03:50 pm »
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The ranged weapons are disabled for the time being, hence the disappearance of archers and xbows.
Fail. even average team could kill all non-ranged bots.

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2011, 08:12:10 pm »
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Would be more impressed if you had 10 more players who weren't level >25  :P.

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2011, 09:16:29 pm »
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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 09:42:44 pm »
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Is chadz wearing is invu-robe?  :wink:

Thought it's not that great since bots doesn't know how to block up...  :mrgreen:
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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2011, 09:51:43 pm »
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Is chadz wearing is invu-robe?  :wink:

Thought it's not that great since bots doesn't know how to block up...  :mrgreen:
Ya but they can chamber up...
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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2011, 10:40:11 pm »
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Don't knock it until you pull the same thing in DTV. Anyone can beat a bot, not many can beat a legion of them with stupid high numbers and with no range or cav. The bots can and will even chamber block, some have shield breakers, some waves are nothing but knockdowN crushthrough spammers.

I dont really care about beating stupid unthinking lines of code, if I wanted to do that I'd be playing a poorly made PvE MMO.  Whoop-de doo, you beat a bunch of bots that are that are so incredibly stupid the devs have to compensate by giving them outrageous speed/hp/armor/etc because they're too dumb to think.

DTV is poorly designed and it shows.  I've played better games on Commodore 64

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2011, 10:52:28 pm »
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Fail. even average team could kill all non-ranged bots.
Uhh, no, ranged is disable for the players on that server, not the bots.  Getting 1-shotted by an xbow sniper was a very real threat in the late rounds. Our run could have been ruined at any moment vs an xbow sniping bot. I had at least one such close call vs a "Sexy" bot as we were cleaning up some remnants: 

We were trying to round up the remnants of the wave and I knew she was somewhere out back, I just had no idea where.  I completely lucked out when she missed from only a few feet behind me, up the steps as I looked down the hill. I can't remember which wave of the Sexy round it was, but anything other than Wave 3 and my death would have screwed over everyone else.

And beyond that, we were constantly having to pull the final bot, an xbow sniper, from way far away back to our base so that we could finish him off close to where we wanted to be. (So we wouldn't get swarmed upon the next wave spawning)

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2011, 10:57:15 pm »
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Congrats!

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2011, 11:19:28 pm »
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tbh digglez is right about the first part, but i can't agree that it isnt fun.

i guess it is designed for 10 more players under lvl 25. still, it will always be abusable in some ways (imo camping the ruins like we did is "abusing the bots") and thats why dtv shouldn't have gold/xp ticks . but then that would be the end of it :(

or maybe its meant for new players to catch up? now that i think of it, i wouldn`t be suprised at all. perhaps it needs some kind of autobalance.. spawn a few extra bots per wave for every player gen!  :D

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 12:25:37 am »
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Great job marked one! You're a celeb now :wink:

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2011, 12:39:34 am »
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Perceval, the closest thing to 'abusing the bots' about the strategy we used is the knowledge that they tend to take one pathway if we stand in the correct positions.  It isn't failproof, as bots still wander in on occasion, and snipers can always hit us.  Their aim is rather uncanny, actually. I felt like we got very lucky that run to not any lose players to errant headshots.

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2011, 12:51:38 am »
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what i was thinking is that getting to x5 is not a big deal and compared to battle its ridiculously easy. i should have mentionned that...

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2011, 01:05:04 am »
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what i was thinking is that getting to x5 is not a big deal and compared to battle its ridiculously easy. i should have mentionned that...

OK, then that's more of an exp/gold payout issue more than anything. Others have suggested payouts be after each wave, which I think is more reasonable than the timer which is very abusable. We never intentionally milked the clock, we were simply try to survive.

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Re: We just killed chadz & company on Kir Thaen....
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2011, 05:09:33 am »
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If you havent figured it out by now, digglez is trolling you.   Or.. he's really upset about something ... dunno, kids are getting angrier these days.