About the MW items for new players.

[AwesomeHail]

They recive 4 crappy random +3 including +3 1hand, +3 body armour, +3 polearm and something else I fergot about and dont even care about. They cant handle with these items like a Cora.

well, still nice to have,
probably +3 super light armor, +3 leather gloves (i'd like to have) and +3 falchion and +3 scythe

[Erzengel]

You didn't understand a single word of my post 

Oh true. 

[Aprikose]

Seriously, how can you only have 4 +3 items if you are Gen 20-30? I am Gen 24 and I have 30+ +3 items. Even if you didn't use the marketplace at all you should have 7-10 +3 items. Your own fault if you were too stupid to get some looms after such a long time.

dayummn you are so cool

[WarLord]

Oh true. 

Seriously, maybe you misunderstood it a bit. All I was saying: "Some people with alot of Generations/months/years of playtime got the free +3 items, while some really new didn't get the free stuff" -> system didn't work 

[Legs]

I think that the 'starter kit' MWs are:
Lordly blue tunic over mail
Masterwork long arming sword
Masterwork two handed sword
Masterwork war spear

None of these are bad at all IMO, many people have heirloomed these items legitimately. In fact my first heirloomed armor was a tunic over mail.

On the upside, you all can now identify players using these items as being easy marks due to their BLUE TUNIC OF SHAME and kill them accordingly.

[Kafein]

Well it's not really fair that some people end up with less than 4 MW because of this. Why not make sure that everyone as at least 4 MWs, instead of giving 4 MWs to everybody?

[Rhekimos]

Those 4 heirlooms can't be traded or changed in any way. The new players are stuck with them as they are, so it's not really 4 MW you can do anything with given away freely. The limit to getting the pack was 3 LP worth of stuff on your account.

As such they are far less valuable than a +3 that you chose and cherish yourself. And you can trade it forwards once you get bored of it or change class.

It could have been a little more generous, like setting the limit at 6 LP worth of stuff, but at that point you probably already have loomed a weapon and armor that you like anyhow.

[Artyem]

I think that the 'starter kit' MWs are:
Lordly blue tunic over mail
Masterwork long arming sword
Masterwork two handed sword
Masterwork war spear

None of these are bad at all IMO, many people have heirloomed these items legitimately. In fact my first heirloomed armor was a tunic over mail.

On the upside, you all can now identify players using these items as being easy marks due to their BLUE TUNIC OF SHAME and kill them accordingly.

I think the starting gear varies slightly, our new guy Dekkarius has a white tunic over mail.

[darmaster]

Lol i thought starters had 12 free static looms they could spend wherever they wanted to

[Jona]

I think this is great for newbies. However to be fair, a +3 war spear is a dang nice weapon to have, and I am sure many polepal vets would love to have one if they don't already.

[Jack1]

the +3 gear for new players should have been something that was a less-valuable item. such as war spear, regular bastard sword, and Arabian guard sword. something that when +3 is better then the other +0's but still isn't the best stuff.

[Boerenlater]

I think that the 'starter kit' MWs are:
Lordly blue tunic over mail
Masterwork long arming sword
Masterwork two handed sword
Masterwork war spear

None of these are bad at all IMO, many people have heirloomed these items legitimately. In fact my first heirloomed armor was a tunic over mail.

On the upside, you all can now identify players using these items as being easy marks due to their BLUE TUNIC OF SHAME and kill them accordingly.

Funny I got a white tunic instead of a blue and could forge the 1h sword into mw mail mittens ;)

[Nessaj]

The general consensus is that those who've played for ages have everything really, that newcomers would have ~3 items out of potentially 9 slots is more than OK imo, most are running around with full sets either via clan armories or personally having retired enough.

In regards to those who rarely ever retired but yet have played the mod for ages, so they don't have many looms even after a ton of time playing the game, could look into doing something there as well though, I see your point.
Also, if anyone is slightly outside the 'range' of the free looms pack for newcomers they can send me a PM on the forum and I'll check their account creation date, if it's somewhat within the 'newcomer threshold' I'll give them the same loomspack.

No promises on the low-gen/no-looms issue though, but will see if something can be done.

[hellou]

Nice, thanks you for help )

[Hellsing]

Nice to hear that

And what about accounts quit on level >~30? Who never retired? Even level 14 or 2 or what ever. They quit a long time ago, hated this "unbalanced unfair" mod and were sad not being able to play it anymore.
Could make them move out of their reallifes again ;)