Throwing lance vs cav

[Hekke]

Does throwing lance stop cav when used as meele weap?

[Donkey_Thrower]

it is so short when used in melee mode, I'm not sure it would.    Maybe if its a 1h cav but if its a lancer chances are you're getting run through.

[Andswaru]

Any pierce damage polearm rears cav so the answer is when you swap it to secondary mode it will stop the horse (if as donkey_thrower pointed out you avoid been killed first).

[Digglez]

it is so short when used in melee mode, I'm not sure it would.    Maybe if its a 1h cav but if its a lancer chances are you're getting run through.

Well I've recently noticed the Short Spear rears horses, or at least has for me on more than 1 time...which hadnt done that for like 2+ years.  I took about a half year break, so dont know if they intentionally put that back but chances are it may as well

[AntiBlitz]

yes they rear horses, i can confirm this, though i wouldnt bother using them, as of now they are the worst throwing weapon.

[Donkey_Thrower]

yes they rear horses, i can confirm this, though i wouldnt bother using them, as of now they are the worst throwing weapon.

whaaaaat?  they got a buff tho... you can carry 6 now instead of 4

[MURDERTRON]

Jarids probably rear horses now too.

[Jack1]

Any weapon using polearm wpf, has a pierce stab, and is atleast 100 length will rear a horse now diggles. That includes halfswording bastard swords/great swords and any pierce polearm. I'm not sure what the length of throwing weapons in secondary mode is but if you figure that out you'll know if it'll rear the horse. Or go in game and try.

[Mallets]

Yes, Throwing Lance in melee mode will definitely rear a horse.  I use them quite a bit to do so.

[AntiBlitz]

whaaaaat?  they got a buff tho... you can carry 6 now instead of 4

a buff lol, who the hell have you been talking to?  they were nerfed, nerfed far into the ground, they used to have over 60p, who cares that they gave you a stack of them, when you can get Jarids, have more ammo, and have far more damage output.  Id rather have had 4 at 60p then 6 at 47p, since you throw like 4 of them into one player anyways just to kill him.   As bad as they are, it would be better to just be an archer, atleast that way you get more ammo, and can actually kill something in the same amount of shots.

[San]

You'd rather have 4 at 60p than 6 at 47p since you would need to throw 4 of them into one player to kill him?

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

Hey Digglez I impersonated you while you were gone, I hope you don't mind.

[Voncrow]

a buff lol, who the hell have you been talking to?  they were nerfed, nerfed far into the ground, they used to have over 60p, who cares that they gave you a stack of them, when you can get Jarids, have more ammo, and have far more damage output.  Id rather have had 4 at 60p then 6 at 47p, since you throw like 4 of them into one player anyways just to kill him.   As bad as they are, it would be better to just be an archer, atleast that way you get more ammo, and can actually kill something in the same amount of shots.

47x6 = 282
60x4 = 240
So now you have more and do a total of 42 more damage average. Meaning you can hit more opponents on top of dealing more damage. But yeah, sure it's a nerf.

Edit: Also, you can add zero slot weapons in on top of that. Such as two sets of throwing daggers, knives, stars or any one hander(0slot).

[MURDERTRON]

47x6 = 282
60x4 = 240
So now you have more and do a total of 42 more damage average. Meaning you can hit more opponents on top of dealing more damage. But yeah, sure it's a nerf.

Edit: Also, you can add zero slot weapons in on top of that. Such as two sets of throwing daggers, knives, stars or any one hander(0slot).

That's not how it works.  You have to deduct armor soak from each hit, so it's less, way less.

[Voncrow]

That's not how it works.  You have to deduct armor soak from each hit, so it's less, way less.

6 pt with 170 wpf vs someone with 70 armour value:
Pierce 60:
Minimum: 28.47
Real Average: 31.94
Maximum: 35.58
Raw Damage: 100.18
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Pierce 47:
Minimum: 20.08
Real Average: 22.85
Maximum: 25.74
Raw Damage: 79.25
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Now lets compare them multiplied by the number of lances.
Min:
Pierce 47: 20.08x6 = 120.48
Pierce 60: 28.47x4 = 113.88
Ave:
Pierce 47: 22.85x6 = 137.1
Pierce 60: 31.94x4 = 127.76
Max:
Pierce 47: 25.74x6 = 154.44
Pierce 60: 35.58x4 = 142.32
Raw:
Pierce 47: 79.25x6 = 475.5
Pierce 60: 100.18x4 = 400.72

All results have been rendered and found by using this damage calculator: https://0b176db51ec327b013e6b005fde2cca145eb9267.googledrive.com/host/0Bzs1vJv0tQLHZ3AwLUQ0Tkt0djg/calc.html
and Microsoft Calculator.

The evidence above show that 6 lances with 47 pierce deal more damage in every aspect than 4 lances with 60 pierce. If anyone would like to replicate my results. Simply enter 6 pt with 170 wpf vs an armour value of 70 and the stats for 47 pierce and 60 pierce will be as shown. I then multiplied the value by the max number of lances to show clearly what a dedicated lance thrower could do one way or the other.