The Jews are at it again..

[Murmillus_Prime]

No, actually, your initial argument was that political problems need political solutions, not military ones. Must be hard not being able to remember yesterday.

Yes that was my initial argument, but the argument I referenced was the one you've dragged out for the past few pages on this thread, again you are now using diversionary tactics to divert from your obvious cluelessness in this subject.

[Xant]

Warfare is never a long term solution. War will bring about war, not a lasting peace.

No such thing as "lasting peace." That's child-talk.

[Murmillus_Prime]

No such thing as "lasting peace." That's child-talk.

Anything humanly possible is possible, but as long as humanity continues to produce idiots such as yourself I think we'll have to wait a few more thousand years, if we haven't wiped ourselves out by then.

[Xant]

Anything humanly possible is possible, but as long as humanity continues to produce idiots such as yourself I think we'll have to wait a few more thousand years, if we haven't wiped ourselves out by then.

Sadly, reality is on my side. But hey, if wild fantasies help alleviate the pain of your hurting backside, whatever floats your goat.

[Murmillus_Prime]

Sadly, reality is on my side. But hey, if wild fantasies help alleviate the pain of your hurting backside, whatever floats your goat.

Brainwashed ignorant reality maybe, your perspective is so skewed..

[Xant]

Brainwashed ignorant reality maybe, your perspective is so skewed..

Holla back when we have everlasting peace. Oh wait, isn't that convenient, it's something you'll never be able to prove.

[MaHuD]

Peace among human nations or peace in general?

[Murmillus_Prime]

Holla back when we have everlasting peace. Oh wait, isn't that convenient, it's something you'll never be able to prove.

I don't need to prove that we have had everlasting peace because that's not something I need to prove. My point is that we have had ever lasting war and that is not something I will need to prove because it is a matter of FACT and REALITY.

[Xant]

I don't need to prove that we have had everlasting peace because that's not something I need to prove. My point is that we have had ever lasting war and that is not something I will need to prove because it is a matter of FACT and REALITY.

[Miwiw]

Peace among human nations or peace in general?

In general? With what else?

[Xant]

In general? With what else?

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[Oberyn]

If you want to get metaphysical about it, the terms war and peace only make sense if both exist. The history of humanity may be full of war, yes, but it wasn't some sort of warhammer 40k dystopia constantly either. By definition the idea of war can only exist if there are periods of peace, and vice versa. War is the absence of peace, peace the absence of war.

Maybe if some group of people are unethical enough to literally change human nature (something that's starting to become more possible over time with breakthroughs in genetic manipulation) you could maybe have "eternal" peace. I'd argue humans aren't what they would be defined as at this point.

[Xant]

If you want to get metaphysical about it, the terms war and peace only make sense if both exist. The history of humanity may be full of war, yes, but it wasn't some sort of warhammer 40k dystopia constantly either. By definition the idea of war can only exist if there are periods of peace, and vice versa. War is the absence of peace, peace the absence of war.

Maybe if some group of people are unethical enough to literally change human nature (something that's starting to become more possible over time with breakthroughs in genetic manipulation) you could maybe have "eternal" peace. I'd argue humans aren't what they would be defined as at this point.

Yes- history may be "full of war", but I think it's a lot more full of peace. I don't think there are many countries that have been at war for longer than they have been at peace. And sometimes, wars have made that peace possible.

And sure, "eternal peace" is possible; vegetables don't go to war. But I don't think that's what people like Murmillus really want. Funny though, isn't it? He's someone who speaks for this "eternal peace", yet he does his best to insult me here - and it's a very small step to violence from insults, and both are often born out of similar mindsets and emotions.

[Molly]

inb4 Murmi suicide bombs Finland

[Turkhammer]

Murmi is a warrior for peace.