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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 07:43:10 am »
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EVGA doesn't build with AMD GPU's O.o

I was referring to the EVGA Geforce GTX 770 vs the MSI Geforce GTX 770.
I switched GPU's

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 07:45:46 am »
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I was referring to the EVGA Geforce GTX 770 vs the MSI Geforce GTX 770.
I switched GPU's

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http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2014, 07:52:23 am »
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ah ic

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

The price/performance on the.. let's say top 4-5 always make me lol a bit.

especially the Quadro K6000. The hell is up with that thing?

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 07:59:32 am »
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I like where the GTX 770 sits on that list in relation to its price.

Looks like a substantial upgrade from the R9 270x I was looking at first.

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 08:07:21 am »
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The price/performance on the.. let's say top 4-5 always make me lol a bit.

especially the Quadro K6000. The hell is up with that thing?

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2014, 11:31:33 am »
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So the NZXT Phantom 410 computer case I'm planning on grabbing has a 3 speed fan controller built in...
Will any additional 120mm fans I pick up, plug into the case and be controllable with this fan controller? Or do I need a specific type of 120mm fans to be compatible with the 3 speed fan controller?

(these are the additional 120mm I'm looking at picking up...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103022


Also, going back to the GPU... I'm gonna pick up a GTX 770. Are there any websites that compare all the different manufactured GTX 770's?
I want to find the one which has the best/most effective fans/cooling.

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2014, 12:03:28 pm »
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Case fans aren't great in my opinion. They make noise for very little benefit. However, the best way to reduce noise is to replace that wind turbine (evo 212, I have the same and it's LOUD) with a water cooler. I'm pretty sure you can get one for just 40$ more, and also win 20 celcius in your cpu.

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2014, 06:21:50 pm »
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Case fans aren't great in my opinion. They make noise for very little benefit. However, the best way to reduce noise is to replace that wind turbine (evo 212, I have the same and it's LOUD) with a water cooler. I'm pretty sure you can get one for just 40$ more, and also win 20 celcius in your cpu.

You'll still need case fans, regardless of the CPU cooling.
If you are really worried about noise, then get a case with 140mm fans like the Fractal R4. 140mm fans tend to be more expensive though, but have a lower rpm for the same flow rate. Getting some decent 140mm fans with a decent case, you'll barely hear a thing.

I generally find the loudest thing in a case is the PSU, followed by the GPU and then CPU.
Not much you can do about the PSU (never quiet :P), you'd be best off getting a decent one for a myriad of reasons aside from noise. The best tend to be a bit quieter. (A good case can make all the difference though)
CPU wise, a closed loop watercooler is slightly quieter than a good aircooled setup and has better cooling (Zalman CNPSX10 = <55C, Corsair H90 = <50C ; 4770k). However price is anywhere from 2x and up dearer.
GPU is similar to PSU, you'll want to get a decent one for reasons other than noise, but it should also lessen the noise issue :).

So the NZXT Phantom 410 computer case I'm planning on grabbing has a 3 speed fan controller built in...
Will any additional 120mm fans I pick up, plug into the case and be controllable with this fan controller? Or do I need a specific type of 120mm fans to be compatible with the 3 speed fan controller?

(these are the additional 120mm I'm looking at picking up...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103022


Also, going back to the GPU... I'm gonna pick up a GTX 770. Are there any websites that compare all the different manufactured GTX 770's?
I want to find the one which has the best/most effective fans/cooling.

I'd assume you'd be fine with any 120mm fan, they all have generic sockets. However if it asks for PWM fans, get those (4 pins instead of 3; meant to plug into the CPU fan sockets and vary speed with temp).

Graphics card wise; ASUS, EVGA and Gigabyte have solid cards. (MSI are worth a mention, but a little on the cheap side)
The ASUS DCU II is a really solid cooler, with a good flow of air in your case, this will probably run coolest. (It also OCs well)

EVGA ACX is another solid cooler, maybe not the coolest, but close. It blows all the air out the back of the case, so works better in worse cases compared to the DCU II (it blows the air out in every direction).

Gigabyte windforce is great at cooling, though it's a tad on the noisey side. I think it has air dispersal like a DCU II.

I personally favour the DCU II, solid warranty and card.

EDIT:
Read OP, get a samsung evo SSD, it's significantly better!

Corsair RM PSU's are new cheapo modular PSUs, I'd go one up if you could.
E.g. HX
http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012
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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2014, 08:01:55 pm »
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Well it depends on exterior temp, but in general each case fan is only going to help with heat dissipation by a few percent, with the first ones helping the most. If you really need that, whatever OC you are doing is dangerous anyway. Without case fans the inside of your case should be at a stable 60 celcius after hours of max CPU load, especially if it's a good case. That's low enough to keep your CPU cooled appropriately. That case already comes with 3 fans. Adding even more serves no purpose.

A correctly functioning good brand PSU is never, ever going to be the main noise source if you have a cpu fan. If your PSU does make fan noise, check for dust. Maybe it needs some oil, too.

CPU water cooling kits with PWD fans are going to be much, much quieter than CPU fans (with PWD too ofc.). The heat transfer is much more efficient so you hardly need much airflow to keep everything super cool.

I also highly recommend getting an SSD. 128 or 256 is the best choice in my opinion as it allows you to install the OS and a few things on it then leave the heavy things to a HDD.

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2014, 08:51:18 pm »
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Well it depends on exterior temp, but in general each case fan is only going to help with heat dissipation by a few percent, with the first ones helping the most.

Wrong, case fans are extremely important for proper airflow in order to avoid the formation of hot air pockets. The only thing worse than no case fans is randomly placed case fans (e.g. 3x intake, 0x exhaust).

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2014, 08:56:30 pm »
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Cool, thanks for these suggestions.
I switched the PSU to a corsair HX 650w... was 10$ cheaper than the RM 650w.
Switched the SSD to a SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB SATA 6Gb/s TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD).

and for a CPU cooler, I changed to CORSAIR Hydro Series H75 CW-9060015-WW Water/Liquid CPU Cooler 120 MM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181058
Is this a decent closed loop water cooler?

Should I pickup 2 extra 120mm fans? The case comes with 3 fans preinstalled... One intake 120mm in the front, and 2 exaust fans 120mm, in the back, and I think a 140mm (might be 120mm) on the top above the mobo.


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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2014, 09:28:42 pm »
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Yes, that's a good water cooler.

And I don't think you need to worry with extra case fans, the ones in your case should do the job quite well already. CoolerMaster's HAF 912 is a solid case, and it's designed to help your PC breathe (HAF = high air flow)

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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2014, 10:18:00 pm »
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Another question...

Can someone give me a comparison of these two mobo's?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130771
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130692

The Z87 (the second link) is currently bundled with a core i7 4770k cpu for savings of 76$, which only makes it about 30 dollars more than the CPU (i5 4690k) and the mobo (the Z97, the first link) I currently have in my cart...


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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2014, 10:23:29 pm »
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Newegg has a built in comparison tool. Check it out.

biggest difference in my quick glance was the chipset (z87 is good if you want to get that bundle)
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Re: My new PC Build... Could use some tips!
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 01:09:23 am »
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Ok I think I'm pretty satisfied with all the parts I've chosen...

Any last thoughts on this build? Here is a link to all of the parts I'm going to purchase... Final price is about 1,450$ (unable to add combo deals to wish list, so it appears a little bit higher in the link)
I'm gonna pick up a couple extra 120mm fans just because they are so cheap, there is room for them in the case and I want more blue LED's in my case :P

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19278854

I think I'm gonna purchase at the end of the day today, as long as everything looks good... and the combo deal on the processor/mobo doesn't expire.


One more question about OS... I read that windows 7 home premium supports only a max of 16gb of ram.
Do you think it would be beneficial to go with another version of windows 7 or even windows 8 so I can get more than 16gb of ram in the future if I ever need it?
Or will I almost never need more than 16gb of ram for gaming?