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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2014, 09:49:31 pm »
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2014, 10:07:54 pm »
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Games, in fact, would probably be enough to keep anyone occupied for a ridiculously long time, once we reach the point where we can feel what's in the game and see it as it were real - then only imagination is the limit and we can experience anything.

Maybe in the future, current games, with very few exceptions like Mount & Blade, can not occupy me for more than few hours,after that they become insufferably dull.

Dying can be pretty nasty, pain, agony, don't seem to be much fun, so definitely I don't look forward to it, but being dead doesn't seem like such a big deal.
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2014, 11:09:03 pm »
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I don't understand people who are bored, but feel the need to slap them in the face. You know, to make their life interesting for a second or two :wink:

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2014, 11:15:09 pm »
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Nope. Can't die.

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2014, 11:18:20 pm »
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I don`t mind dying, I just want it to be fast.

exactly;  it's something we clearly cannot avoid forever, either an incident, a natural disaster, soon or later we'll all have to die and there's nothing human technology can do; luckily everyone will go through that and luckily noobody knows for sure what's next. just wait and hope the pain doesn't last for long either phisical or psychological,  and know that in any case it will sure cease
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2014, 11:20:26 pm »
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I try to make the most of my time, knowing that I, like everybody before me, am mortal, but can maybe have a better time of it.
Whichever way I die, in the timeline of humanity there will probably have been millions of people who have died more and less horribly than I will, and so I cant really complain about that inevitability either way.
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2014, 12:05:55 am »
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I thought a bit longer about it and it still sounds like a stupid attempt at sounding interesting.

Well no, it's a key issue. You cannot prove that you actually lived your past, because identity is an illusion. Identity is an illusion, because your are a heap of particles with no identity. Think of you as a lego house. Does the house exist independently of the bricks ? Supposing all bricks are the same and impossible to distinguish, is it possible to distinguish two houses that are built exactly the same way ? It's not, and your body is the same. A copy of you is you, and has the same memories. How can you be sure you will wake up, when it could be "someone else" ? In fact it is "someone else", every time.

I personally do not fear death, because there is no point really. I will try and avoid death and pain, however it is likely that both will happen to me anyway. I can't change that and I have no other choice than to accept it.

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2014, 12:21:57 am »
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What Blueknight got on his profile is so true : If you run, you'll only die tired. If tomorrow, I know that I'll get killed, I will have no regrets, I'll accept it. If I get murdered, I'll simply smile to the guy holding the gun, and tell him a day, it will be his turn. If you have to die, then, do it quickly, or just try to take people you hate, things you hate with you. When I see people being tortured for days until they die, people exploited, etc ... I simply can't say : life is too beautiful to die, it's quite the opposite actually. When you realise you got no power at all, it's worth nothing to stay alive when it's time. People fear death because they can't accept the fact they aren't immortal, of course, I'd accept to live a thousand years, but I don't want to be eternal, do you imagine ? Watching the world, people you meet, dispapearing, one after one. I'll enjoy myself my life, with every kind of sin, and be trying to make people around me happy to live, but I'll also try to tell them : profit while you can, because tomorrow, you may not be here anymore. When I saw my grand father dying after 48hours of agony at hospital, having his own corpse destroyed by acid from his stomach, I would have simply wanted to die immediatly if I was him.


Profit of life while you can, try to avoid shit around you, tell people you love that you love them, and accept your death, without any thought about if yes or no there will be something after, good or bad, because it will not be the case. This is all I can tell you, even if I'm pretty young, since I already had more nightmares and shit happening to me than everyone of my age.

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2014, 12:28:14 am »
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2014, 12:52:22 am »
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Well no, it's a key issue. You cannot prove that you actually lived your past, because identity is an illusion. Identity is an illusion, because your are a heap of particles with no identity. Think of you as a lego house. Does the house exist independently of the bricks ? Supposing all bricks are the same and impossible to distinguish, is it possible to distinguish two houses that are built exactly the same way ? It's not, and your body is the same. A copy of you is you, and has the same memories. How can you be sure you will wake up, when it could be "someone else" ? In fact it is "someone else", every time.
I completely agree with the build up of your argument but you manage to draw a contradicting conclusion. You state that identity is an illusion and the only thing that makes a person you is your body and your memories and I fully agree. Yet you state that even if everything that makes a person you has stayed the same, you are a different person. Where then lies this difference and what reason do you have to assume it?

If there are two houses that are built exactly the same they are the same house. The only reason that you have to doubt this is that there are two of them existing simultaneously, therefore they must not be the same house. If you go to sleep and wake up as the same person, no reason to doubt this exists, let alone any reasons to assume you must be someone else. Whether you just slept or died is a completely irrelevant issue as for all intents and purposes there is no difference.

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2014, 01:02:49 am »
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If you've ever found this a problem, how do you deal with it?

Do the things you said you were going to do some day. Today is some day.
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2014, 01:03:45 am »
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2014, 01:40:32 am »
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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2014, 01:52:52 am »
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I completely agree with the build up of your argument but you manage to draw a contradicting conclusion. You state that identity is an illusion and the only thing that makes a person you is your body and your memories and I fully agree. Yet you state that even if everything that makes a person you has stayed the same, you are a different person. Where then lies this difference and what reason do you have to assume it?

If there are two houses that are built exactly the same they are the same house. The only reason that you have to doubt this is that there are two of them existing simultaneously, therefore they must not be the same house. If you go to sleep and wake up as the same person, no reason to doubt this exists, let alone any reasons to assume you must be someone else. Whether you just slept or died is a completely irrelevant issue as for all intents and purposes there is no difference.

My point was that at each point in time, you are not exactly the same as what you were at your previous conscious moment. Hence you could assume that whatever you are in the past and the future is "not you", because it's not exactly the same lego house.

Whether you just slept or died is a completely irrelevant issue as for all intents and purposes there is no difference.

That is until we invent teleportation or physical cloning or some such. Would you use a teleporter ? Maybe it's not you appearing at the other end ?

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Re: How do you deal with feeling your mortality?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2014, 03:49:52 am »
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If there are two houses that are built exactly the same they are the same house. The only reason that you have to doubt this is that there are two of them existing simultaneously, therefore they must not be the same house. If you go to sleep and wake up as the same person, no reason to doubt this exists, let alone any reasons to assume you must be someone else. Whether you just slept or died is a completely irrelevant issue as for all intents and purposes there is no difference.

Maybe I didn't execute my statement clear enough. The point is: If you go to sleep and you would die then unconsiously, there would be no way for you to figure out that you died. Now you're replaced by a person which is physically the same as you and has the same memories as you. How would "you" differ between you and a new you.

Actually see it this way: The human has to brain halfs. It's possible to remove one half surgically if the patient is still very young and growing so that the one half can overtake all tasks. What if the other half that is removed, is connected to another body (vsauce questioned this in a video once). The question is if there would be one consciousness or two.

I hope you understood the complexibility of the problem of connecting consciousness to simple matter.