This is how I imagine all animers in here are .

[Umbra]

The point of those mistreatments is to destroy individualities, strengthening both obedience and group dynamic. It's necessary when coordination is more important than efficiency, but it's clearly not for everybody, and doesn't leave people unscathed. Actual training as in what you have to do and what you have to know, is secondary to that.

What were we talking about again ? Ah yes, I read Death Note and loved it.

You speak as if this is a bad thing.

An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt.

It is better to die for the Emperor than to live for yourself.

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[Falka]

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At bootcamp I had a drill sergeant, the biggest dick I ever met in my life. Everyone in my company wanted to murder him in cold blood.

We would go for breakfast after the morning run, and once we were eating inside, he would come in the restoraunt, and he`d force us to eat while we`re doing small jumps, and if one of us dared to speak, that was it, no more breakfast, out to run again with half full stomaches from the food, hell, even today I can sense the food coming up my mouth ready to puke from the running. 

He`d use to wake us at 4 am to do a role call with full gear, and if someone wasn`t ready at the given time, all the others would do push ups until he was.

Or, we were ready to go out with 6 hour passes, and if someone dared to speak during the role call, he would make us run around the barracks until he was done with the role call, a role call with 200 names on it 

Trashtalking, waking us up brutally with kicks on our beds and every other annoying shit a man can do to annoy others.

BUT.

Last day at bootcamp, he gathered us all and he gave us a speech, he knew everyone hated him and he was glad for it, because everything he was doing to us, it was made to make us be ready in a case of war, there will be times that you`ll have to run after you have eaten, there will be times that you`ll have to wake up and be ready in 3 minutes or less, because the enemy will be attacking.

Yeah, that's a cool story, almost like the ones described in "The lords of discipline", "Semper fidelis", "08/15" or "Full metal jacket"... Though your story lacks spice, some drama I have to say.

What people like you, leshma, falka and every other hippie prick out there fail to see, is that soldiers have a bigger free will than you. Because soldiers, know that when to war, chances are against them, yet they don`t back down.

Wut? 

Anyway, probably you're better material for a soldier than me, as you seem to have aggression in yourself which I lack and which, I suppose, is needed for a soldier. Also, you seem to like Big Words and this martial/soldiers spirit: "I trust them with my life", "brothers from different mothers", stuff like that. On the other hand I would not break someone's nose just because he "came to my face" (I hope you don't mean by that he jizzed on you?  ), especially not at university.

[Nightmare798]

Wut? 

Anyway, probably you're better material for a soldier than me, as you seem to have aggression in yourself which I lack and which, I suppose, is needed for a soldier. Also, you seem to like Big Words and this martial/soldiers spirit: "I trust them with my life", "brothers from different mothers", stuff like that. On the other hand I would not break someone's nose just because he came on my face, especially not at university.

See what I did here?

[Panos_]

Yeah, that's a cool story, almost like the ones described in "The lords of discipline", "Semper fidelis", "08/15" or "Full metal jacket"... Though your story lacks spice, some drama I have to say.

I`m not expecting from someone who hasn`t serve to understand my words.

Anyway, probably you're better material for a soldier than me, as you seem to have aggression in yourself which I lack and which, I suppose, is needed for a soldier. Also, you seem to like Big Words and this martial/soldiers spirit: "I trust them with my life", "brothers from different mothers", stuff like that. On the other hand I would not break someone's nose just because he "came to my face" (I hope you don't mean by that he jizzed on you?  ), especially not at university.

Not my problem that people think they can fuck with me.

[vipere]

I almost belevied you about the army Panos.

The "bad sergeant story" was a bit too much,but i have to admit it was a nice try 

[Falka]

Yeah, that's a cool story, almost like the ones described in "The lords of discipline", "Semper fidelis", "08/15" or "Full metal jacket"... Though your story lacks spice, some drama I have to say.

I`m not expecting from someone who hasn`t serve to understand my words.

My point is your story is a cliche described in plenty of books and movies, like the ones mentioned above.

[Xant]

The point of those mistreatments is to destroy individualities, strengthening both obedience and group dynamic. It's necessary when coordination is more important than efficiency, but it's clearly not for everybody, and doesn't leave people unscathed. Actual training as in what you have to do and what you have to know, is secondary to that.

What were we talking about again ? Ah yes, I read Death Note and loved it.

Well, yes and no. The point of those "mistreatments", as you call them, is to just make you obey orders without hesitating. The military has plenty of roles, and therefore needs plenty of personnel, where "strong individuals" are necessary. Going through shit together also builds team spirit.

Generally, all that stops after basic training. Once you get assigned a proper unit, it's all about training. And it really is understandable they have to do that shit -- most people are completely not ready for the military lifestyle, and all that crap really has a big effect. And the harsher shit you go through, the easier the future will be. "This isn't as bad as when we did X..."

[Panos_]

I almost belevied you about the army Panos.

The "bad sergeant story" was a bit too much,but i have to admit it was a nice try 

If you search the forums, you will find at least 6 pictures of me while I was in the army. I have no absolute reason to lie about it, also you can ask several people who have me as their friend on facebook.

Here, have a picture of when I was 18,

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[Grumpy_Nic]

I wuz soldia too wunce

[Panos_]

I wuz soldia too wunce

if I wanted to sound like a douchebag, I`d type something like this


"I was a commando trained to kill, a mortar specialist, I know how to make pipe bombs with socks and condoms, shot with more than 30 weapons, took place in 5 NATO excersices and I had a one month training with Murrican OOOOOORAH MARINES"

 

[Nightmare798]

On the other hand I would not break someone's nose just because he came on my face, especially not at university.

SEE WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE??? GIVE ME UPVOTES FOR FUCKS SAKE I NEED THEM!!!!!!!

[Utrakil]

there there
have a plus and be quiet

[Nightmare798]

there there
have a plus and be quiet

*cha-ching*

Thank your very much!

[Falka]

Enough?

[Leshma]

I love how Panos is obsessed with me and Falka, so much that he has to mention us in every third post he makes.

Fun fact is, when I came back to play cRPG for the 2nd time there was some guy Panos who was a major nuisance. And that is still going on, despite the fact we don't even play the same game anymore. He's a really strange fellow.

If this community thought me something, that would be to tell a complete stranger I meet in the game for very first time and he's acting like he's a buddy of mine, to bugger off.