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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2014, 05:12:21 pm »
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Welp, i already joined allies :/

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2014, 06:06:01 pm »
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Welp, i already joined allies :/

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2014, 06:17:40 pm »
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Ugh.

Is it me, or is the game insane grind?

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2014, 06:55:28 pm »
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I earn like 1k credits per battle, if i do really well. Any weapon, apart from starting ones (why in the hell would you be able to buy another starting weapon? ffs, lost 10k by accident :/ ) costs like 50k+
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Also, it keeps throwing me into battles, that are already over, ffs.
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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2014, 09:29:05 pm »
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I will join axis  :twisted:

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2014, 12:14:57 am »
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feels like a mix of wolf:et and dayz! im sold lol


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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2014, 04:33:00 pm »
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Well I've played a few games and I'm liking it. I did want to play as ze Germans but they were overpopulated apparently so I joined the US. Oh and I killed a BF109-E with my Garand.

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Ok not so much killed it with my Garand, it was flying really low and I started shooting him, he jerked his planes movement and hit some scenery or something and smashed into tiny pieces, but it said I killed him with my Garand and everyone lol'd  :lol:. Reminds me of WW2 Online ( Think it's called Battleground Europe now or some shit ) because I remember killing pilots with Rifles and Sub Machine Guns when I was on a roof top and they flew too low, always embarassing when you read what killed you after you died in that game and it says some dude with a rifle, what a waste of a plane.

Having fun with this though, but I'm not sure what route I want to go with it yet, my first instinct would to be a pilot as I played a lot as a Pilot in WW2 Online and of course IL-2 Sturmovik ( WW2 flying sim, I guess most should know this ) and I was pretty good at it aswell as having a lot of fun, but I don't have a joystick anymore, only a gamepad and I don't know what the controls will be like or if that will even work with it. Think I might just stick with Infantry with this first character, I can buy the US jeep thing now with the MG on the back so I'll probably get that.

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2014, 05:22:34 pm »
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Well I've played a few games and I'm liking it. I did want to play as ze Germans but they were overpopulated apparently so I joined the US. Oh and I killed a BF109-E with my Garand.

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Ok not so much killed it with my Garand, it was flying really low and I started shooting him, he jerked his planes movement and hit some scenery or something and smashed into tiny pieces, but it said I killed him with my Garand and everyone lol'd  :lol:. Reminds me of WW2 Online ( Think it's called Battleground Europe now or some shit ) because I remember killing pilots with Rifles and Sub Machine Guns when I was on a roof top and they flew too low, always embarassing when you read what killed you after you died in that game and it says some dude with a rifle, what a waste of a plane.

Having fun with this though, but I'm not sure what route I want to go with it yet, my first instinct would to be a pilot as I played a lot as a Pilot in WW2 Online and of course IL-2 Sturmovik ( WW2 flying sim, I guess most should know this ) and I was pretty good at it aswell as having a lot of fun, but I don't have a joystick anymore, only a gamepad and I don't know what the controls will be like or if that will even work with it. Think I might just stick with Infantry with this first character, I can buy the US jeep thing now with the MG on the back so I'll probably get that.

well the planes fly like shit in this game, so going pilot like i did right off the bat was a poor idea.  Though on that note, i have one of everything now anyways.  The planes are just super unrealistic, whether its the flying mechanics or the 2k rounds of ammunition you spew at them to onl y knock the pilot out and not damage the plane.  Just ridiculous that someone can dive a AA battery and shoot someone out of the seat of it, yet the plane flies away nearly unscathed.  I know they are working on things, one day they will work on the planes, i just think they are focusing on filling out the rest of the game.  In the past 3 months, this game has changed quite alot.

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2014, 07:47:44 pm »
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K, i've figured out that i can't make any income, if i'm playing with modified ammo, apparently :/

My biggest gripe right now is that i get thrown into these terribly one-sided (against me) battles - Infantry only (no anti-tank) vs Heavy tanks+Mechanised Infantry+Whatever? Sure, go ahead.

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2014, 08:08:28 pm »
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K, i've figured out that i can't make any income, if i'm playing with modified ammo, apparently :/

My biggest gripe right now is that i get thrown into these terribly one-sided (against me) battles - Infantry only (no anti-tank) vs Heavy tanks+Mechanised Infantry+Whatever? Sure, go ahead.

Well on my third match I got put into a game with tank and planes, I went 12 - 4 k/d and captured points which I would say is okay. I just played smart and patient, move quickly, take cover, study my surroundings, then move again if it was safe. The majority of the kills I got was because I spotted the enemy before he spotted me, or in fact he probably couldn't see me at all, which you wont be able to do if you're running about like a headless chicken or just not looking at your surroundings enough.

In that same match, half of my kills were in 1 life, because I had hid in a house along a path where the enemy was coming through, I shot about 3 guys before they realised I was even in the house and then when 2 of them assaulted it, I killed them both with grenades as they stupidly tried to climb the ladder without even throwing a grenade up first. I was only killed in a firefight I had left the house to help my team mates push.

So I'd say if you are struggling, you probably aren't playing 'smart' enough ( not saying you aren't smart, just that your approach to the game and the fights within the game aren't smart ). I'm also earning at least 4-5k per match ( without the premium bonus ) so yeah it must be the modification.

 I think in that third match I got my best shot out of the 5 matches I've played so far, some annoying guy on a bike was pedaling away from me in the distance all over the place, making me miss shots, until he must have been a few hundred metres away when I hit him in the head and shot him off his shitty fucking bike.

well the planes fly like shit in this game, so going pilot like i did right off the bat was a poor idea.  Though on that note, i have one of everything now anyways.  The planes are just super unrealistic, whether its the flying mechanics or the 2k rounds of ammunition you spew at them to onl y knock the pilot out and not damage the plane.  Just ridiculous that someone can dive a AA battery and shoot someone out of the seat of it, yet the plane flies away nearly unscathed.  I know they are working on things, one day they will work on the planes, i just think they are focusing on filling out the rest of the game.  In the past 3 months, this game has changed quite alot.

Thanks for the heads up, think I will give the planes a miss for now, plenty of enjoyment to be had elsewhere until they fix/balance planes. Just bought the US jeep with the MG on it to have a little fun with.
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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2014, 08:42:32 pm »
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Well, there's not much smart you can do, when your spawn is camped by a number of tanks and snipers and no one on your team has any anti-tank weaponry.

How does melee weapon hit detection work? I bought a shovel, yet all my attacks just pass through people :/
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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2014, 02:28:22 am »
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Well, there's not much smart you can do, when your spawn is camped by a number of tanks and snipers and no one on your team has any anti-tank weaponry.

How does melee weapon hit detection work? I bought a shovel, yet all my attacks just pass through people :/

dont use the auto join stuff to join battles, probably the worst way to play, go to the generals stuff and look at battles going on, and whats supplied in such battles and join from there.  Or, if that is too troublesome, or you cant really get your head around the map system, look through the list of battles going on, and click over to the resources, view them, and make the appropriate choices on which to join.  The battles that are completely one sided more often then not are the ones populated by auto-joiners who have no idea that they are essentially fucking themselves and others for like 30mins while they are spawn camped with Tigers.

Probably the most bothersome points of this game so far for me are;

The proning 5 second animation, ffs, why must i piss about and take my time to get on the ground, as if just buckling your knees and flopping to the ground is somehow a difficult 5 second struggle.

Weapon gets stuck and refuses to fire when peaking out of doors with long rifles and being too close to a wall or obstacle like say a low wall.  I understand it being realistic to have trouble with a rifle in a confined space, but i more often then not am killed because my gun will bring me out of iron sights and completely refuse to fire because i was just a hair bit too close to a wall or door frame.

Why can a tank travel up the side of a mountain, sit on said mountain, and fire shells from across the map and obliterate everything.  Very frustrating as your tank doesnt have the gun depression to shoot up that mountain, while he can shoot down.  The shells also have the same penetration no matter the distance, so even though his shell shot 3km, its still going to slug its way through your armor.  This is most notably seen on the airfield mission, and the rail yard mission.  They need to either make those areas off limits, or make the tanks truly struggle to get up there. 

The melee system is fooked, dont bother attempting to hit anyone who has seen you coming with it, you have to be touching each others noses together to hit anyone.  The melee is only good for when you have snuck up on someone and hit them literally unaware.  One day they will fix it, christ sake it took em around a year just to realize that grenades are meant to clear rooms and arent just party popper child's toys.

Fucks sake the spawn campers, i dont know how many matches ive played as the allies where i have had atleast one german scum hunkered down beyond my spawn point shooting people as they spawned, or waited for them to climb on the bike and killed them.  They have talked about spawn protection for years, yet do not want to implement it for some unknown reason.  It took months of complaining just to get them to make your tanker spawn with the fucking hatch closed because of so many fuck heads ruining the game by just waiting beyond spawn and shooting a tanker as he spawns, then stealing his tank. 

Once you become a general of your own troops, you will literally beg for a system to ban people from assault teams, i cant even begin to assess how much in game money i have lost from fuck heads leaving tanks to cap spawn points, or taking a half track out and driving it into the belly of a tiger tank.  I cry as i watch my funds and army get shit down the drain and reappear in London.  The praise i would give if i could remove people from using those vehicles or assault teams would be great.  Its really hard to rally pubbies, its even harder to make them not destroy your economy.

Mobile AA, please, please fucking add this, so many goddamn planes, 109's fucking everywhere, and the AA guns are always out of ammo, some schmuck climbs in it, shoots the mountains and air surrounding it for a minute, wastes the ammo, then leaves it sitting there.  Why must i use a bazooka to blow up my own AA so that it will respawn with more ammo.  What kind of fuckhead made that system up, and why are you paying them to craft such brilliant ideas.  Not to mention how functionally inferior they are to a plane; if you do not kill the pilot as he is diving you, he will more often then not shoot you out of the seat of the AA and if this does not succeed he will follow that up with a bomb that will. 

the planes, dear god the planes, are all flying fortresses, they take thousands of rounds to bring them down.  The flight mechanics are crude, there isnt any sort of altitude system, you cannot run away, nor use any sort of aerobatic maneuvers to outplay an opponent, more often then not my best way to get someone off my plane was to just force them run out of mouse pad or just give up spinning in circles.  You cannot adjust the planes lateral movement with the mouse, only with the A and D keys, which make strafing runs a bitch to perform as you constantly over shoot your targets.   The only badge worth a damn as a pilot is the bomber one which increases the amount of bombs your plane can hold, which to me is just absurd as is, just silly seeing a 109 drop 4 bombs off his plane.  They really need to add better flight models, increase the flight ceiling and create proper damage models.

The parachute, i fucking spam the button for it to open, yet, i still die about 40-50% of the time from it not opening.  Then on to the next part of this rant, the ass clown pubbies using it like they are paratroopers just for the assault weapons, so they waste the planes when they are on your team, and just annoy the fucking hell out of you when they are enemies by spawn camping you from a point which is beyond what they can capture anyways.

So helluva rant, but im sure as you play, you will see these things.

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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2014, 07:45:52 am »
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Lol, I myself noticed how weak the AA was, it felt, sounded and looked like I was firing a multi-barreled automatic peashooter, that just sprayed frozen peas into the enemy plane, it was laughable.

Also, the Machine guns I've witnessed and used myself so far all feel pathetic, like weak peanut splerging guns. The MG on the back of the US 1/4 4x4 just seems like a joke, it sounds pathetic, it feels like you're just throwing a handful of runny shit at the enemy when you awkwardly spray in their direction with it, having shot some guy 3 times with it as he ran along to see him still running was laughable. The guns on the back of the 4x4's leave the gunners vulnerable as it is, at least make them hit hard enough to put enemies down without having to headshot them or find someone stupid enough to stand directly infront of one for a few seconds.

All the machine guns need beefing up, they need to sound devastating AND actually be devastating, there are countless games where these WW2 MG's feel, sound and act this way without them being OP, because you counter it by making them harder to use with movement issues etc.

I'm sure I'll find more things that will bug me, but I'm still having a lot of fun.
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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2014, 07:47:52 am »
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The AA is more usefull as a light vehicle and infantry killer than as AA yeah its not well implemented. Also MG's are already overpowered as fuck. I loot an MG42 from dead enemies as soon as I spot one. Stationary MG's on trucks and shit, it's actually really useful when stopped and from a large distance. Driving around or directly into enemies at full speed and shooting is a recipe for getting killed though.
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Re: Heroes and Generals
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2014, 08:07:54 am »
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I hit some guy 3 times with a mounted MG from 40 metres away and he just carries on running like it was only a fly shitting on him, I really don't think they're that powerful lol.

MG on the 4x4 is pretty bad regardless of your location and distance because of how vulnerable the gunner is, the reward doesn't match the risk. I have killed guys hitting me with that MG at me from all distances using my Garand, because 9 times out of 10 even if they can get the drop on me I can get cover or a better position to fire from before their bullets can kill me, which leaves me with an easy target to hit in the chest or head.

Also, does it cost your reward EVERYTIME you spawn your 4x4, or if you spawn it at all? I spawned mine a few times in a match and my reward was next to nothing, if I spawn it just once will it not dent my reward so bad?.