Meanwhile in USA

[Golem]

Leshma you're a fucking idiot. Putin, or any other secret service, are the good guys. You wanna know who the truly evil people are? Medicine professionals. What person, can honestly and truthfuly swear to never intentionally cause any harm to a patient/other person? There are intentions, which you either cannot comprehend or cannot control. The Hippocratic Oath is a fitting name, because it's the hypocritical oath. Nice little pun there.

[Westwood]

Why aren't you over there fighting again?

Possibly because I was 13 when the last American combat troops withdrew from Iraq and and when our withdrawal from Afghanistan was announced three years later I made the mistake of committing to a number of years of community college which my high school graduation would then be dependent on. Been working on remedying that mistake lately, been meeting with a recruiter the past few months. But that's more of my life than you really need to know about :^)

[Leshma]

Damn, another one. Last time it was @Bobthehero. Wonder if he ever got to enlist.

No need to waste words. It's always the best to learn from personal experience when it comes to war.

[Drunken_sailor]

Join the air force and sit in a chair all-day

[Xant]

War......... war never changes.........

[Kadeth]

you tellin' me there are things of significance in the USA outside of guns, big tiddies and cheeseburgers ??

[Paul]

Can we make career suggestions for Westwood? Ordnance removal, heuristics specialist.

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[Vibe]

you tellin' me there are things of significance in the USA outside of guns, big tiddies and cheeseburgers ??

2d tiddies

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[Xant]

@Westwood

What's your stance on Chemical Weapons?

A) Just 'big TNT'
B) Not all weapons are created equal

(this might be on the test)

So you think chemical weapons are worse than non-chemical weapons? Based on what logic? It's fine to kill people with normal explosives, like a civilized dictator, but god forbid you kill people with chemical weapons!

[Golem]

So you think chemical weapons are worse than non-chemical weapons? Based on what logic? It's fine to kill people with normal explosives, like a civilized dictator, but god forbid you kill people with chemical weapons!

Because chemical weapons are double stage.
You throw a grenade, it explodes and kills a person.
You hook a grenade up in a tripwire and it kills a person 20 years after the conflict.

You use a chemical weapon, it kills a person, it poisons the environment and affects several generations after the conflict.
You lose a chemical weapon, it leaks, it poisons the environment and affects hundreds of generations after the conflict.

Yeah, Xant, I wonder which one is objectively shittier.

edit: It's like you don't read the AIR2.0 thread

[Drunken_sailor]

Yeah EOD for sure, a lot of job openings and you get the spec ops title.

[Xant]

Because chemical weapons are double stage.
You throw a grenade, it explodes and kills a person.
You hook a grenade up in a tripwire and it kills a person 20 years after the conflict.

You use a chemical weapon, it kills a person, it poisons the environment and affects several generations after the conflict.
You lose a chemical weapon, it leaks, it poisons the environment and affects hundreds of generations after the conflict.

Yeah, Xant, I wonder which one is objectively shittier.

edit: It's like you don't read the AIR2.0 thread

Yes, I, too, wonder which one is objectively shittier. The conclusion I've come to is that the answer is, and must be, "neither."

If a CM kills 200 people, how is it better than a chemical weapon killing 20 now and 40 later? Logically speaking, it's not. Only someone thinking about it emotionally would be of the opinion that chemical weapons are some kind of a bogeyman while "conventional" weapons are fine.

[Leshma]

Stupid people are multiplying at such alarming rates that not even sending them to die in middle east can put a dent in their numbers. As we can see some are still eager to fight even tho USA have no plans for such a thing, this missile strike was presentation of new toys for potential buyers and also acting like tough guy on geopolitical scene. Bunch of liberals in USA crying, but those missiles cost more than fixing Flints water pipes. Yeah, but those fired missiles are representation cost, while fixing water pipes will not yield any profit.

[Drunken_sailor]

Believe me I wish people could stop killing each other, but if you think there is no difference I encourage you to go look up some pictures of the effects on people caused by chemical weapons, a bullet does seem civilized compared to these things.

[Golem]

If a CM kills 200 people, how is it better than a chemical weapon killing 20 now and 40 later?
200
20 + 40 = ?

When you make it disproportionate like that, obviously I'll have to agree with you. Or will I?
Would you rather have 0 out of 200 people, or 140 people some of which are mourning for their loved ones that they've lost, forty people that are terminally ill and that some of those hundred and forty people have to care for, as well as a good portion of those people being negatively affected by the chemicals - not to mention the number of birth defects of those seventy women(*) and even the cultural trauma of being attacked with chemical weapons?

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