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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2014, 10:09:41 pm »
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2014, 06:00:53 am »
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2014, 01:18:51 pm »
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since we're talking about big corps and money

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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2014, 02:36:23 pm »
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2014, 06:54:57 pm »
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Just buy valve goggles when they release it.
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2014, 08:03:46 pm »
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I read there's some Kickstarter campaign for a game where they made a stretch goal for 2.000.000.000 to buy back Oculus from Facenbook :)
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2014, 11:06:45 pm »
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2014, 11:20:13 pm »
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Introducing Michael Abrash, Oculus Chief Scientist

For those who are not familiar, dude in question has been working at Valve on their VR headset... this could mean two things. First is that Valve won't make VR headset because they aren't competent. Second is the scary one, mostly my imagination and I hope I'm seriously wrong about this... you see, Valve is a private company. Facebook was mentioning video game console recently... I really hope that Facebook won't pull another stunt and buy Valve :(

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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2014, 12:25:49 am »
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Valve has stated multiple times that the are only developing VR technology for R&D, not to sell to customers. Which makes sense. Valve is a software company. Same with the steam machines, they don't produce them, they developed the specs and the software for it.

Now, of course, it's not unlikely that this is going to change in the future, but don't expect any consumer VR equipment from Valve for the next 2, 3 years. They are just not ready for that yet.


As for facebook buying valve.. No. Just no. That's not even unlikely, that's impossible. From both sides.

First of all, facebook only buys startups. They are looking for companies to buy that are young, have the potential for exponential growth, and fit their strategy. Valve is a settled company, it's a cash cow, and while they probably will get more successful, it's not exponential any more. What would they do with Valve? What potential could FB see in valve? They would need plans to make Valve x times as profitable as it is right now. How would they do that?

Buying the OR company makes sense. The thing is on the rise, it could easily be worth 20B$ in a few years.

Valve is already highly profitable and independent. It's not a startup, it's a big player. Why would any owners of Valve be interested in selling out when it's already a money printing machine.

The thought of facebook buying Valve is as absurd as Google buying facebook.


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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2014, 01:05:27 am »
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Google can't buy Facebook anymore, even if they wanted. And they obviously don't want.

Microsoft on the rise, was much different than young giants of tech industry. Bill Gates was bigger jew than Zuckerberg will ever become. He didn't buy out competition, he ruined them.

Next came Google, their strategy is to buy what they find useful. They have a plan and are sticking with it. They don't buy out competition, not their style. If they did that, Facebook would be part of Google a long time ago.

Facebook is typical company that is buying out any possible threat. Oculus is different and no one really knows motivation behind this deal. Saying that Oculus VR will be worth 20 bil in next few years is something fresh entrepreneurs like to say. Reality is, Oculus VR in this shape and form will never become a big thing. It's something geeks like you and me drool over because we've seen it in sci-fi movies when we were kids.

Oculus lacks elegance and low price to became popular among masses. Facebook might change the price part, but bulkiness will stay. People don't want them 3d glasses on their heads which is the main reason 3d flopped (again) but you expect them to wear Oculus... not to mention that Oculus is death sentence to human eyes because damn screens are so close, focal point will be fucked up much faster than it already does with focusing on stationary objects like books and screens.

I think that Zuckerberg is a kid inside like you and me (well I'm obvious case, you're a kid because instead of making big buck at some software company dealing with security you chose to make a dream game working from a wooden shack). He probably has some crazy ideas that don't involve profits as much shareholders prefer. Also Zuckerber as being one of young great CEO probably tried to get in touch with his idols and learn from them. His way of doing things remind me of Great Bill, just moderate and fit to the timeframe.

That is where Valve fits in perfectly. It's not expensive as Sony and doesn't come with ton of baggage like Japs do. Valve is tight and efficient. And is Facebook's only way to become really big player in future of gaming.

Of course, no reason for Gaben to sell out to young jew kiddo. But as you said, Valve has become steady income company, no annual growth will happen from this point onward. Unless they change something, become bigger. But I don't think they can do that on their own against companies like Sony and Microsoft. What Facebook can offer them is money, fame among general crowd (non gamers) and something that matters the most. Facebook is second or third company in the world when it comes to number of programmers and servers. They have fucking internet backbone in their backyard (or graveyard luls), they have infrastructure and with time passing that will mean a lot or tech companies that want to go big.

Also Gaben worshipers hate Facebook, that's like 50 mil of fresh and steady customers.

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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2014, 01:08:59 am »
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Oculus is different and no one really knows motivation behind this deal.

There's only one motivation for shelling out 2 billions on a deal: more billions.

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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2014, 01:16:15 am »
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400 mil actually. Rest is just part of a big bubble called Facebook. Google is a bubble to an extent but they started to closely work with companies that actually make buck by selling stuff that actually exist in a physical world. Whole this internet ads business could be shut down if America grows balls and write some laws that actually protect privacy.

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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2014, 02:18:16 am »
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Damn chadz why u so smrt make shorter posts plz
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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2014, 03:26:07 am »
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Ahh where to start.

So first things first. One company buying another one is nothing evil per se. It's the goal of most IT startups.

Now, the reason why Google and Facebook buy companies has nothing to do with competition. Both are very aware of the biggest threat of IT companies, which is what basically happened to Microsoft: running stale.

A few years ago, Google had a very specific reputation regarding acquisitions: They give you an offer. A very good offer. They don't negotiate, and if you turn it down, they never approach you again, then that door is closed forever.

That worked quite well for them, until Facebook started screwing them over. Because Facebook was willing to negotiate, and Facebook was willing to pay more if they really, really wanted something. So Google couldn't just do their godfather thing any more, and that's why the prices for those successful startups exploded so rapidly in the last years.

Reality is, Oculus VR in this shape and form will never become a big thing.
I bet you, 10 years ago you would have laughed at the idea of smartphones. They are more expensive than normal cells, they are bulkier, they need to be recharged daily.
I can't tell you if it will become the next big thing. No one can. Everyone who claims he knows is full of BS.

Zuckerberg doesn't know either, but he thinks the possibility is there. Which is how startup acquisitions work. You have something with the potential to become big. Out of 10 companies, 9 crash, one rises. Investors have no idea which one that is. That's why they put their money into multiple companies.

I think you misjudge the position of Valve completely. They make more than a billion $ revenue per year. Probably even a lot more. You don't just buy a company like that. Valve's value was estimated 4B$ in 2010. And they did grow heavily in the last years. By now, they're worth a multitude of that. And even then, you don't buy a company by it's worth, but you have to add something on top so the owners are actually willing to sell. Server infrastructure for Valve, that's pennies, do you really think they have to rely on facebook and their webservers?

Valve is not a ball, Valve is a player.

Instagram, Whatsapp, Snapchat, you know how much profit they made? Nada. And FB paid/was willing to pay billions for them. All of FBs acquisitions have one thing in common: They are not fully developed yet. There was potential. They made no or little money.
OR fits facebooks portfolio perfectly. Valve doesn't.


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Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2014, 03:32:58 am »
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I'm sad that FB bought Oculus :(. I wish gayben would have bought them out.