*****Rally against the Grey Order

[Gryfita]

Kinngrimm For the King !!! on all Caldaria !!!! Whay you do some aty-UIF Alliece and be king like Lord Hetman and Emperors Vovka or Nebun ^^

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[Osiris]

Think id rather attack Fenris and continue mah war 

[Kanclerz]

We're not bad people, but well organised
We have ~20 - 25 active players


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[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Personally the since the Bashis soded off the UIF have been one of the few interesting things going on in the eu side of strat.

It's great they are so huge and so powerful. It creates more if a challenge for the rest of us. The fact that the game isn't very strategic and more grind sucks though because it means a clan can and almost always will bounce ba ccc know.

It seems to me that it's about time for everyone to get together and let slip the dogs of war.

It takes 2 care bears to have a tea party after all.

[Keshian]

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Which is sitting on the trade routes of GO/DRZ, making it tough for others to do something about that trade. I have seen the link within the message to DRZ/Greys, how many goods had been swapped? 26000 for each side then with 350%+ trade bonus?

And your suggestion is to wait longer? 

... yeah sure

Also with now faction member counts of
96 in the GO
85 in DRZ
50 in Kapikulu
36 in Shogunate

controlled area including fiefs(yeah also the ai fiefs are coutned, as noone else would be able to sue their S&D anyhow of those who are ocnsidered hostile to UIF)
44 fiefs by DRZ
22 fiefs by GO
24 fiefs by Kapikulu
8 fiefs by Shoguante (would have been more if not for Kalmarunion)
all in all just say about 100 in comparison of overall 181 fiefs, that makes UIF controll more then half of all fiefs, even without Shogunate. So there you stand corrected.

If you want only the villages to be counted
it is about 110 villages all in all
15 GO
15 Kapikulu
6  Shogunate
27 DRZ(1 castle included)
=63 again more then half of the villages

The remaining fiefs are shared by those, who are partly also already fighting each other, you know like it is supposed to be.
Bubabstan in the north, HRE vs Eques, then we have factions like Mercs who are using up the S&D of small and new factions also again up in the north or are they also all the time in UIF AI fiefs? I guess not.

Meanwhile GForce a NA clan is openly supporting UIF, controlling the NA/EU border in the desert stopping any EU trader not affiliated to UIF and pushing north into the step, having installed there Nords, intresting turn of event aswell ^^. When you see also that GForce in the desert is closely Cooperating with Occitan who did last round most of the NA trade with DRZ, you could go so far that the UIF has a NA section.(Occitan first was openly UIF, then went back in strat 4 into NA, only after Union got banned for multiaccounting right?). Then again this maybe just chasing ghosts right?

To say it bluntly, the way GO recruits and the way these clans dont go against each other is like a cancer to crpg, strat and the community. You make the impression of petty bullies, not more not less.
Banner ballance fucks over small factions and single players the same way also for strat as it does for the fights and XP gain and character development.

So while there are lots of people within these clans i like and respect, for this conglomarat of pussies who lead this shit, no respect whatsoever anymore aslong you would not also be willing at a point to take a fucking chance. I said it before and say it again, if this shit will not be addressed at least in the new game chadz is creating, fucking huge alliances and mega factions, then he can put my contribution to it to a place where the sun does not shine.
In one threat you complain i would gank on you, now you complain that i dont. This is the same shit as in the talks we had on ts, you switch opinions and stances continiously. I would not want to be with oyu in a block if Grandmom would threaten to attack me, i just dont give a fuck about you guys thats all, you are a dieing clan with no vision so do us all the favour , die faster or get your shit together and stop crying like a little bitch.
maybe they are new to strat or dont have the ressources to keep up with the tech race in gear, maybe they are not coordianted enough or dont want to instantly lose everything. Maybe nothing of those reasons, but then again why the fuck should there be even a need to do so? Not like the dream of these small factions in the north was always to be david to fight goliath and get all stressed out about a shity game. And while i, as you can ask GO was never condeming them for past mistakes, always reminded my own guys that Kapikulus have ping issues and are not bad players, that DRZ is jsut another clan with people who want to ahve fun, Nords and all other clans i fought in the past there are people i like and get a long with, that i also allways fought against the odds, may it be my first strat in strat 2.0 together with mercs against 16 different clans with 3 months constant hardcore warfare i have never seen afterwards again, in 3 with new friends and new enemies and in 4 the same. In 5 this is the first time i start with the same enemies as i had in 4 and they know it, as this carebear shit makes me sick to my bones. My first goal since strat 2, always had been to get more colors on the map, look north, yeah thats how it should look like all on the map, if strategus would be healthy, look on the NA map, that still is a 1000 times better then the shit you guys pull of over and over again. So with a lot of sugar on top, please fuck off!

@chadz
asia server now! And besides China and Russia make Poland also asia server, then these gay lords can hold hands there for all eternaty and i would be very curious to see how China would handle these 2 clans  damn i would regularly spectate their fights to get a good laugh.

tl:dr (to be fair I skimmed)

Basically Grey Order and Druzhina are pussies who don't like games that actually challenge intellect or for that matter has anything remotely resembling a challenge.  Strategus works great for them - just hire a thousand drones/cd keys and then never fight each other - win the same way the russians held off the chocolate chip cookies - meatgrinding by sheer numbers.  This is old news, 5 strats and they have yet to come up with anything original (goes with the mentality - eastern europe has always been way behind technologically compared to the west because culturally innovation frowned upon).

But the fact is it works - they get to say they "beat" people they outnumbered at a minimum of 3:1.  We can't tell them to do things any differently (and they certainly will never play it any differently), so there is no point in wailing about it.  They made Eu strat incredibly boring so my solution to anyone who is tired of another round of boring EU strat:

I NOW OFFER AN OPEN INVITATION TO ALL THESE FACTIONS TO COME TO NA! Quite a few of you have around 100 ping (which I found easily playable when I was east coast US playing in EU).  For those with higher ping you can still have the fun of playing the browser side of the game and doing trade caravans/raids into EU borderzone.  Let the UIF have "fun" attacking AI castles and cities and come add to NA community and your community's fun.

[Corsair831]

meh, we already said that we're going to be neutral on the map now, we're not going to attack anyone for the time being, drz / grey are way too strong and the anti-UIF is a completely disorganised mess, i honestly would recommend stopping suiciding tickets against the grey order like this and focussing on economy and defending.
if you're the weaker faction in a war, and your surprise attack fails, you don't carry on attacking until all of your men are dead, you consolidate and come up with new ideas.

this strategus more than ever, trading and defending is a valid tactic, as they increased the price of armours to a factor of ^8 (if i remember correctly), therefore by the time druzhina gets plate even if the other half of the map is trading at 1/8th efficiency of them, they should still be up to ~~ 40 body armour (+ 8 from cheap gloves, 48 body armour), which isn't amazingly bad.

[kinngrimm]

We're not bad people,

what ever makes you feel better right? Therefor all the banner leecher became GO members, because HArpag, who admittedly doesnt give a shit about personal relatiosn to the single GO member, cant say no when someone asks to join .. because he is so good hearted ... right?

but well organised

with 90 guys in my faction, i also would be able to get more done, so bravo for your good organisation.

We have ~20 - 25 active players

That exatly is the problem, others dont. Many others together , still dont. At a time enough clans work together to match your numbers, then there is still DRZ, Shogunate and Kapikulu. Sorry but no respect or sympathy from me for the way your clan interacts sofar this round and i cant really take your arguments serriously.

@Kesh/Heskey
While i like the NA clans, i would just go inactive in Strat. Having a small invasion into EU or NA map is one thing i guess, but for the remaining 8-9 months then playing on NA ping and with that time differential, thanks , but no thanks. I am neutral to all NA clans, like last round, i wont change that this round. If i get booted out of NA from a NA clan, i would most likely not come back.

@FRANK_THE_TANK
be my guest to organize such a force, being able to take down UIF. I myself wont put myself again in the position like last round and before, where i depleted all my energy only to get screwed by factions which are not working for the common good, but to jerk of on their revanche trip or cant get over their own greed.

@Corsair
i dont take advice of someone who is not attacking those who ruin the game, even more so as he seems not to be abel to comprehend most of what is said here, otherwise you would not try to stay out of this conflict but cut down the trade routes, even though you would may get wiped over the effort. You staying out, being neutral, yeah sure, i see the battle rosters, i see that trade goes through your area untouched, i see that while you have in other topics already said that you are UIF or whatever that shit you all pull there has to be called, you say here you are not attacking anyone for the time being ... well GO needs their tickets atm themselves so yes you need to wait a little.
Trading is not a tactic, it is a nessasity, playing defensiv you can when you have castles ... damn you lucker 30 men missing in the roster of that castle defense. I guess when i take my first castle it will be the full 80, arent you a sweety.

[Fips]

In one threat you complain i would gank on you, now you complain that i dont. This is the same shit as in the talks we had on ts, you switch opinions and stances continiously. I would not want to be with oyu in a block if Grandmom would threaten to attack me, i just dont give a fuck about you guys thats all, you are a dieing clan with no vision so do us all the favour , die faster or get your shit together and stop crying like a little bitch.

Where exactly did i complain about you specifically? All i said was that i expected you to push some troops and equip towards Eques to make it easier for them. I am complaining about that nothing is happening, they could have taken Ada Kulun so easily right after we started this war but they just sat in their fiefs after the initial attack. Noone trying to attack the trading caravans, which also could have easily been attacked, taking hundreds and hundreds of crates from us, but meh. I can just send one guy unarmed right along Eques territory and they are not doing squat. That is what i call boring.

I never wanted to talk to you anyway, i declared a war on Eques and not on Fenris. You're an arrogant asshat who is way too full of himself and i try to stay away from those kinda people. If we didn't have this whole UIF issue i'd make sure HRE would be as much of a pain in your ass as possible.

[Knitler]

Its still Kalmars Diplomacythread .... act like it. I secretly want u to continue, just for personal amusement... but still for information.

Cause i dont want to get watched, Kalmars are exodusing into GO-Lands ... i dont get it. - Secret Plan?

[Renay]

Actually, this is Kalmar's Diplomacy Thread: http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/the-kalmar-union-%28eu%29-diplomacy/

[Casimir]

Strat every round ends in people hurling shit at each other. If DRZ and GO were to make seperate alliances there would be an interesting fight, unfortunately neither of your factions seem to have the balls to take that step and plan an attack on the other. It's sad really but what can be done, you wont change and no-one can make you.

[Renay]

I don't get what all the rage is about, strat is about winning, right? DRZ and Grey Order are forming an alliance together to win. Why would it make you better if all of you joined an alliance to win? Sure, after that you would go back to killing each other. Why? Because it would be boring otherwise. The same goes for DRZ and GO. Once they wipe every single clan out of strat, there won't be anything else to do but fight each other. So they are basically doing the same thing you guys are trying to do, just with less clans and more players within those clans. It's like singleplayer. You join a faction or make your own and then you start killing everyone else until the last faction is your biggest ally. And then you declare war on him. In strat it's basically Shogunate, Kapis, GO and DRZ together and once everyone else is defeated, I bet Shogunate will go down first, then Kapis and then GO. Also, we are having great battles atm and this is about having great battles, so stop your bitching...

[Butan]

Ultimate solution to strategus block problems: wipe strategus only when the map/economy get boring.

I think if we knew that chadz would react to domination/inflation problems to decide when to freeze/wipe/start a new round, instead of having a end date set in stone when we know it will be over (15 dec 2014), people would not have to rely on such threads because they would know that AS SOON AS the round is informally over, it then becomes officially over.

Its all about when the round begins and when the round ends, everyone base off their foreboding warnings around the fact that we have 11 months to play this strategus round 5, and most of them dont think it will last that long; by that, I mean it wont be enjoyable that long. We all dread having to wait months and months before someone put out the light, strategus players from previous rounds know what I mean.

Then of course, if we only think of the present, as my fellow poster just above said : we are having a real good time right now, stop bitching.

[GRANDMOM]

We all together killed 2500 GO tickets yesterday - good work, we lost more ofc but together we have lots more so thats fine.

New armies coming for a second wave, still waiting for the mercs to decide to come or not and for Shogunate members to see whats happening and that they can help sway this stratround.

This still stands, so whenever you are ready just go and do something about it


Mercs 7k equipped out of 10k
Shogunate 5-6k equipped
Bros 2k equiped
Kalmars 4-5k equipped
fenris 5-7k equipped
OdE 3k equipped
Vandals 3k equipped
SB 3k equipped
The rest of the north god knows how many troops
And ofc barabes ;)

All together - right this minute around 30k equipped soldiers - mostly looking at each other, saying nah, we will stay and defend our village......see the truth as it is - if all of those armies had the same color and could see each other they would get a boner and start walking as one man towards GO and their lands would be a killing zone with good potential to get rid of every GO ticket and trader and fief.

Its NOW today again the same situation, and its very doable if all would lay aside their fears and just start walking - even you Fips

Its NOW before GO has taken cities and  castles

Its NOW before the ones that has started the attack are gone

Its NOW and not later

We have left our villages empty, we will help out with gear and tickets and whatever if we can

Cymro
Corsair
Chris

We are waiting for you - the rest is allready in......so whenever you are ready........

[GRANDMOM]

OdE securing Gisim:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=670

Vandals defending Tosdhar:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=667

SB defending Ambean

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=668


People are bleeding guys, fighting what will be your enemies in the next week......