cav players

[NejStark]

qq
mad cuz bad
etc

[Sniger]

they are like the counterstrike players only using awpee

[Gurnisson]

they are like the counterstrike players only using awpee

No, that's crossbowmen

[Sniger]

No, that's crossbowmen

okok HX then? 

[Ikarus]

Felt the need for some crying

Even with the new speed buff for heavy lance, why should somebody ever consider to play lance cav nowadays? You can´t outrange enemies anymore, almost every weapon can rear your horse and you glace so often that people already started to call this class "glance cav".

Most people now even play 1hcav with an additional great lance, they just ride around and couch some cheap kills, if they get reared they just switch to 1h, spam and slowly ride away with their tanks.

Also, it´s plausible that a horse rears when you stab it from the front side, but no. fucking. animal. would ever rear if you hurt it from the side. But it still happens. Stab my horse into the butt and it will rear. (lol no wait thats not funny, its depressing and sad as shit )

So what mostly happens is this: I carefully try to ninja people and try to hit them. But mostly I
- glance and deal no damage at all
- get attacked from the side, rear, die
- get shot, die
- get stopped by 1h cav, die

I might be also bad since I´m a bit out of practice, I mostly play bowbimbo, but I can´t get rid of the feeling that lance cav is currently the most useless cav class around.

much tears, so sad

[Gurnisson]

- glance and deal no damage at all
- get attacked from the side, rear, die
- get shot, die
- get stopped by 1h cav, die

- Bad timing
- Bad maneuvering and/or awareness
- All right, I'll give you that one
- Outskilled or badly played

I've been playing lance cav quite a lot these last few days. I haven't noticed anything wrong with lance cav, and I don't find it weaker than other cav classes, just different pros and cons.

[San]

I might be also bad since I´m a bit out of practice, I mostly play bowbimbo, but I can´t get rid of the feeling that lance cav is currently the most useless cav class around.

Before the recent hoplite/lancer optimization, a lot of the most damaging parts of the stab were in the earlier part of the lance's reach. It was abusable in lancer duels since you can cause glances if you got the opponent to release too early. It feels slightly different (and better) now, and maybe it'll take a bit more time for some to get used to it. Against melee, it's a lot easier to "move" into your stab, hitting on the later parts of the reach. If you were used to the old stab timing, you'll deal less damage sometimes.

[Macropus]

Hm, you know how I feel about classes in general...

- For infantry, your performance depends on your skill compared to skill of your enemy
- For ranged, your performance depends on your skill alone
- For cav, your performance depends on your enemy's skill alone


Generally speaking, if you die to infantry - he was better than you; if you die to ranged - well, everyone does; if you die to cav - you're bad.

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PS: HURR DURR CANT BE ARSED TO BOTHER ABOUT GRAMMAr

[Teeth]

I feel that the latest lance stab optimization levelled the playing field between lancer cav and slasher cav. Ikarus, I think if you practice with hitting at your maximum reach and using the new sweetspots, you'll find that lance cav is very potent now. The heavy glance has stopped glancing during the last half of the animation which makes it's longer reach actually useful. The comeback of the viable heavy lance has made lance cav a much bigger threat against aware infantry. Perhaps a general armoured horse nerf is in order though, we all know that upkeep is not really an effective balance factor and the servers are filled to the brim with Mamluks.

[Joseph Porta]

Use red tassle on horseback for maximum libido

[Ikarus]

Okay, then I just suck balls and need some practice thanks

[Aksei]

as 1h foot shielder o dont care too much for heavy cav, just make a step. The arabian warhorse is OP though

[F i n]

When i was using my plated charger + 3 and full + 3 plate armor with a 2h i had a KD of 5:1...

Yes - Cav is powerful.

But ffs, i spend like 1 m to upkeep on that gen .

Besides - look at historic battlefields -

Where WARhorses were merely used for amusement and casual driving.... right? 

Just saying.

[722_]

My +3 Padded Warhorse now got 1 hitted, yes, 1 hitted 2 rounds in a row. One time from  a 1 hand stab and second time from a great bardiche sideswing. 1 fucking hitted. 

Heavy horses need way more hp/body armor.

i use the same horse, and it can get 1 hit but its incredibly uncommon if you dont get greedy. i dont really class it as heavy cav either as it has way less armour than any of the more expensive horses after it, its sort of in the middle of light and heavy cav

[Teeth]

My +3 Padded Warhorse now got 1 hitted, yes, 1 hitted 2 rounds in a row. One time from  a 1 hand stab and second time from a great bardiche sideswing. 1 fucking hitted. 

Heavy horses need way more hp/body armor.

No they don't. It's literally an infestation of heavy horses on EU 1 mostly. Padded Warhorse is barely an armored horse, speed bonus works two ways and if you play lancer, their base damage is usually way higher than yours. So don't charge anywhere unless you are fairly certain that you can prevent getting hit on the front of your horse. I am having quite a lot of fun as cav now, because the fixed Heavy Lance allows me to take on many types of infantry from the front and win with superior stab timing. I use a Destrier and it takes a damn special kind of scenario to get it 1 hit by infantry.