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Should training lessons and the respec system be reformed to provide less game constrain?

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Respec shouldn't be free, but it shouldn't be worth 3 M or more, fuck it.

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Would like to change my build, but ...

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Lets say that 96 millions of experience lost if you push the respec button calms you...
When will you make respecs a serious thing that is not only made for marketwhores ?

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183 people who voted for it getting angry every day that pass without a response from a dev...
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Yes 183 (79.9%)

No 41 (17.9%)

My opinion is (comment's on thread) 5 (2.2%)



Dat majority

I realized that I voted for "my opinion is..." simply because I said yes in a long-winded way... so feel free to chalk me up there as a yes, so it can be 184 now. :P
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Bump. Harald, you're our only hope!
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God ... Just set the XP loss per respec to 25%, is it so hard to do ?

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Respec at 50% exp, but free home delivered bacon!
For all the non-believers, look no further than this thread for proof that while strat battles are won/lost in NA3/EU3, strat wars are won and lost on the forums.
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I'm poor like a lot of people, I don't want to leech on servers, I'd gladly give some XP away if there's no any respec to 500k. Both solutions are viable together, but they won't since devs don't care ;)

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Well guys we have accomplished our mission. I sent a pm to Harald and he said the devs haven't talked about it yet due to being very busy. However he did say they would probably look into it in the near future, so there is hope!
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Don't lock the thread though !  :rolleyes:

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PRAISE HARALD, AND PRAISE THE SUN.

However, I don't know what is the "near" future ... 1 month, 2 weeks ?

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Don't lock the thread though !  :rolleyes:

Sorry I clicked the lock button on my phone by accident! haha.

This and the Heavy armour difficulty rework are the 2 major popular community ideas/polls atm. I dont know what other things they're working on, but i would hope these 2 get a look-in since they've been campaigning for so long and getting such a majority

The dev's new game Melee: Battlegrounds is taking up most of their time (and rightly so), we just got to be a little patient ;)

PRAISE HARALD, AND PRAISE THE SUN.

However, I don't know what is the "near" future ... 1 month, 2 weeks ?

I suspect the time frame will be around 2 months.
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Like a year ago, plenty of people asked devs to increase items limit in armoury for account (currently, one account can have only 25 items in armoury).
Topic: http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/increase-the-number-of-items-one-player-can-put-in-the-armoury/msg765236/#msg765236
Original post has 40 upvotes and 0 downvotes. Basically everyone agreed this change is needed. I also sent PM to Harald about this topic, but devs were "too busy" to change it back then.
It's year later now, and limit is still 25 items. How hard is to change this limit, you ask? Well, it's changing 1 value in code, so like 5 minutes of work at most.
You guys need to understand, crpg developement is pretty much dead already. Original devs are working on Melee: Battleground game, and don't want to spend even few minutes on crpg anymore.

BTW: My post from January, about new respec idea:
It would be briliant if you can change attributes/skills anytime for specific, but quite high amount of gold.
For example, decreasing 1 attribute or skill point would cost 100k gold. Decreasing 1 weapon proficiency point would cost 10k.

So let's say you want to change 21/24 build:
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To 24/21 one:
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Firstly, you will have to decrease AGI by 3 attribute points, which will cost 300k. Then Weapon Master/Athetics/Two Handed weapon proficiency points will turn red (you can't have 8 WM/ATH and 184 2h WPP with 21 AGI), so you will have to take off 1 WM and 1 ATH point, which will cost additional 200k. Then you need to decrease Two Handed WPP from 184 to 170, which will cost 140k gold (14 WPP points x 10k gold = 140k gold). Then confirm button appears and you can make whole change for 640k gold - if you need just slight build adjustment, it's fair price imo.

Buying training lessons for 2+ mln just to change your build by 3 attribute points makes no sense atm, so it would be cool to have this kind of alternative.
This quick build change feature will be expensive enough to keep training lessons popular for full respec, just like they are now. This will also solve the problem of putting wrong attribute or skill point to your build - for the price of 100k you will be able to fix the build again (right now you have to stick with broken build).

And my opinion from March about current crpg development situation:
The whole problem is, devs capable of implementing such ideas are making new game atm (Melee: Battlegrounds), so they don't care about crpg anymore.
Only changes you can count on are: new items (thanks to Zagibu), more broken animations (thanks to Tydeus), some DTV changes (thanks to Fips) and bad balance changes (I guess mainly Tydeus/Paul ideas?).
What I learned in last months, writing on this forum is waste of time. I'm trying to be as inactive as possible now.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2014, 12:38:13 pm by Angellore »