An autobalance that puts clans together on public servers is a terrible idea.

[Breidr]

Cannot agree with this enough.  This is the one thing above all else that has stopped me from playing.  too many games end in 0/20+ players left.  1x multiplier almost constantly.  I've got better uses for my time.  I guess this mod doesn't want new players and is just for clan stomping.

[Rumblood]

Join a clan for the banner. Its not like you have to do anything for 90% of the clans playing.

[Jack1]

Stacks often make servers less fun for the teams not stacking and cause servers with normaly 80-90 players to go all the way down to 40.... The problem honestly needs to be solved...

Perhaps raising the repair costs/chances for any clan whom makes up over 30-40% of a team and if the clan makes up 60-70%+ of the team every loomed item breaks every round (as to target the usually more experienced players insted of the new ones)

[Crazyi]

You form a clan to play together. The entire purpose of a clan is to play with the same group of people. If we didn't play together on the pubs, then when the hell are we going to play together? Strat only? Yea that is the best time to practice teamwork..... when the battle actually matters....

You want the all clans to go to another server so it can be 10v10 in the pub at prime time? It still wont be balanced, I promise. I play plenty at odd hours when the the clans aren't out en force, and one side still always dominates the other. It is a problem with the auto balance itself.

Im sorry man but simply saying clans should only be allowed to play together in Strat is stupid. I would like to see some greater degree of auto balance during round 2 to have equal sized/amounts of of clans on each team. I have mentioned this before but I highly doubt it shall happen.

[San]

Meh, my clan gets switched and I fight them more often than not anyways. I think balance in General should get fixed first, even if it means temporarily disabling banner balance to put in the proper tweaks.

[Breidr]

You form a clan to play together. The entire purpose of a clan is to play with the same group of people. If we didn't play together on the pubs, then when the hell are we going to play together? Strat only? Yea that is the best time to practice teamwork..... when the battle actually matters....

You want the all clans to go to another server so it can be 10v10 in the pub at prime time? It still wont be balanced, I promise. I play plenty at odd hours when the the clans aren't out en force, and one side still always dominates the other. It is a problem with the auto balance itself.

Im sorry man but simply saying clans should only be allowed to play together in Strat is stupid. I would like to see some greater degree of auto balance during round 2 to have equal sized/amounts of of clans on each team. I have mentioned this before but I highly doubt it shall happen.

Have fun then.  I've got better things to do than be fodder for pubstompers.

I mean, my NW regiment gets plenty of practice without stomping pubs, but whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night I guess.

[Sandersson Jankins]

Perhaps in EU the problem is Greys or Byz massively inflating one team with extremely experienced, high level, and skilled players but in NA very rarely does a clan garner enough numbers of highly influential players to completely overcome the other clans active at the time. Even if there are no more than 4-5 representatives of each clan maximum on the server the rounds often go 4-0 or 3-1, with dozens of players left on the winning team at the end. It's simply a problem with the autobalancer.

If you removed banner balance, you'd not only make a very sizable fraction (even perhaps a majority) of the community disenfranchised, maybe enough to quit, but you wouldn't solve the problem. The devs would need to code an extremely efficient auto-balancer, and I don't think doing such a thing is on top of, or even on their to-do list at all. I don't blame them in the slightest for that, either.

[Sniger]

to all you stackers who claim its because you want to "teamplay" (i still have no clue wtf you mean, every time i play(ed) i teamworked with my team or at least i tried.) please stop the endless "we wanna teamwork" argument, because it just doesnt hold water and its obvious you just lobbying for the x5 stacking.

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STRATEGUS

[Sniger]

GO PLAY STRATEGUS!

i think it would be amusing if all the ones who dislike Banner Unbalance simply just quit the game. gl hf.

[Sniger]

me and others have whined about this for years really. but fuck it. ill finally stfu now. waste of time, lost cause. gaming freemasonry 

edit: actually... when i started playing crpg i played with certain individuals who back then was clanless (like myself) we didnt have custom banners but banner (un)balance was indeed in effect. everyone could use the same banners though. when some clan (back then it was usally nord) stacked EU1, me and the guys i was playing with back then, whining like crazy on ts or was it skype; its unfair, its lame, screw nord and so forth. we had long talks about how unfair and lame it was. usally when we had enough we just logged out and picked the nord banner and leeched, to great annoyance to most of the real nord guys 
funny thing is... the guys i played with back then have now joined a top3 clan and they are now against removal or change of banner (un)balance and/or the way we gain xp. funny :p

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[dreadnok]

Have fun then.  I've got better things to do than be fodder for pubstompers.

I mean, my NW regiment gets plenty of practice without stomping pubs, but whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night I guess.

Your dopey. Majority of people on both teams are in a clan. The teams are never CLANS vs PUBS.  Your in a REGIMENT in another game tho.makes sense

[Jack1]

What about doing something like

Y=X*Z^W

Were
Y=value of banner stack to the team
X=total KDRs/point death ratios of all members of a particular banner
Z=something such as 1.02(when a banner stack has 20 people the value of the player will go up to 1.5*value compensating for the better cohesion than the enemy team which will either have another large stack or many unorganized people.)
W= number of members on banner

Using an equation like this one would mean that huge banner stacks that work well together would be given many less non stackers on their team or may just split the stack up overall while small banner group would have nearly no effect.

Edit: numbers may be changed based on average server populations(na1, na2, eu1, eu2, chn) being that a team of 8 can roll NA 2 and 30 are needed for EU1.

[Varadin]

its not our fault cuse we are too good for other ppl , Try to get better and you might even beat us.

on the other hand new players rarly stays only cuse most of the others ppl are already high lvls got plenty of MW items, and are just too good for them , so there is no fun in being peasnt , non-skilled, and without money and lvls, thats why ppl quit. also game is pretty old.

i just pray to god that Melee:Battlegrounds will have at least few thousands active players and not like cRPG that has about 500 active ppl. ITs still ok and its still playable mod but i just find it so sad that i can recongize every fucking single name on siege or battle server, even on strategus you always know the guys that are fighting. Just imagine how fun and how would adrenaline hit you when you would attack or be attacked on strategus by some huge clan that you never heared of before, and never seen those guys before fighting,and now when i fight those "huge strat batles" i see for example some guy and i already know his playstyle, and that is what kills my fun actually, Would like to meet some other players high skilled, even skilled than me, that i never fought before and beat his ass IRL

[Panos_]

Would like to meet some other players high skilled, even skilled than me, that i never fought before and beat his ass IRL

such a humble guy.

[Sniger]

penis i and im sure lots of other players have killed you plenty of times wara  noone is immortal unless they bring aaaall their friends, which i assume you would too in an IRL 1vs1 fight

hre, grey, byz, nord, merc or whatever dude