Evolution vs Creationism debate tonight in 'murica

[Xant]

Just watched it. That was hilarious.

Highlights?

[Ninja_Khorin]

Basically Nye saying science stuff, and the other guy countering his arguments with "There's this book. It answers that question.". I guess you all can guess which book that is.

At the end of the day the creationist guy couldn't prove anything and spent his entire time trying to make a distinction between "Observational science" and "Historical science". In his mind this "Historical science" can never be proven since it deals with things that have already happened and therefore can not be observed.

While Nye's argument was that the natural laws applied in the past the same way they apply in the present.

A fun part was when Nye pointed out that there are trees older than Earth according young earth theory. And when icedrilling in antarctica has uncovered atmosphere that's 680 000 years old. The counter arguments were that it's not necessarily true because he can't observe that it's true and therefore he has belief that it's true and therefore the Bible is equally likely.

The final question was: "What is the one thing more than anything else upon which you base your belief?"

Ham's answer started with: "There is a book called the Bible....."
Nye's answer started with: "As my old professor Carl Sagan said so often. When you're in love you want to tell the world. And I base my belief on the information and process that we call science......"

Pretty much summarized the entire debate. Unfortunately a large part of the debate was so regulated they didn't get the opportunity to actually debate against eachothers points and were in fact only given time to assert their positions and evidence for them before moving on to the next topic.

Nye pretty much discredited Ham's entire theory that Noah's Ark contained all creatures on the planet and the landed in the Middle East on a mountain when Nye pointed out that Australia is filled with animals that exist nowhere else. The creationist theory assumed that they had walked from the middle east through Asia and then over a land bridge to Australia. Nye pointed out that there should be evidence all over Asia of kangaroos moving to Australia and there should be clear evidence of a land bridge connecting them.

I mean, it was ridiculous and hilariously absurd at some points.

[CrazyCracka420]

I didn't watch it, figured it would pretty much be what I already expected.  I plan on watching some highlights or at least the 5 minute back and forth session.  I basically didn't want to watch the creationist talk for 30 minutes, and had no need to hear Bill's arguments (aside from entertainment). 

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[Xant]

Watching it now; same old Creationist crap. It is amazing to me how these people can be professional anti-Evolutionarists and STILL have a worse understanding of evolution than you'd expect a grade school kid to have. They are just utterly incapable of understanding how evolution works and why changes in beaks are evidence for evolution, and the old favorite of Creationists is "if evolution is true, how come humans don't ever give birth to monkeys????"

[Xant]

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[Armpit_Sweat]

The Sunset Limited
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1510938/

You can watch it for free on youtube now

One of my favorite religion-related movies. There is nothing about evolution, but it's really good. On my personal scale of goodness of course :)
10/10 Armpit Stars

[CrazyCracka420]

You can watch it for free on youtube now

One of my favorite religion-related movies. There is nothing about evolution, but it's really good. On my personal scale of goodness of course :)
10/10 Armpit Stars

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[the real god emperor]

Creationism and most of the religion related stuff is out of science true , but religions sent by God, if you re a believer. God is above all sciences , so its normal to believers.For me , I think evolution makes sense, but i don't think human race evolved from a pink ass monkey shit.

[CrazyCracka420]

God didn't write the bible or any other religious texts.  How do you know that one person's claims of what God told him are accurate, and someone else's are not?  What gives someone credibility, but another person is just a cult leader who has 100s of people drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid? 

[Xant]

Creationism and most of the religion related stuff is out of science true , but religions sent by God, if you re a believer. God is above all sciences , so its normal to believers.For me , I think evolution makes sense, but i don't think human race evolved from a pink ass monkey shit.

Nobody thinks the human race evolved from "a pink ass monkey shit", so....

[CrazyCracka420]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/seven-evolutionary-reasons-people-deny-evolution

[zagibu]

I have a question for the non-believers among you:

If god is unreal, what about quake and half-life?

[chadz]

If god knows he is the highest being of the universe, does that make him an atheist?

[SixThumbs]

Was Jesus crying out on the cross "why have you forsaken me, father?" because he himself questioned Him?

[Spurdospera]

If God is omnipotent being, can he/she make a rock so heavy that it cannot be lifted even by God him/herself?