Please add one handed unbalanced weapons.

[Battlepriest]

so you mean

yeah except longer

[Nightmare798]

exactly! thats why every sword or cut type of dmg must be hardly nerfed... or at least every sword should get cut type of dmg on their stabs... and its about 2hs also...

What? No not really. Swords, axes, picks, hammers, maces they all have their merits. Why to nerf 1H swords (again)? To force 1H users to run around with fugly unbalanced weapons?

My point was that, imo, there is no need for unbalanced 1H weapons, we have enough heavy 1H weapons already. When you add an unbalanced 1H weapon(s), everyone will say "fuck that", and buys balanced mace or a sword instead.

Actually, it would be realistic for all weapons that use specific point to deliver damage to be unbalanced, without nerf to swords, because swords were superior weapons, and the only reason anyone would wield axe, mace or hammer was because they were cheaper than swords.

EDIT: they were also better suited for combating heavy armor, but swords had stabs for that.

[Sniger]

could make it so the use of all 2h weapons in one hand makes it unbalanced or something like that

[Nightmare798]

could make it so the use of all 2h weapons in one hand makes it unbalanced or something like that

Yeah, but how many people use 2H in one hand outside cav?

[owens]

haha

Nightmare sorry to pick you up on this but you don't seem to know much about armoured combat. Try stabbing into plate or even a brigandine with anything. You will end up with a sore wrist (assuming one handed) and potentially a dented skull after your opponent smacks you with a heavy falchion or mace. Ever wondered why people half sworded and used longswords like clubs against heavy armour. Its because a slash or traditional (warband style) stab would have failed against the later period armours.

[Nightmare798]

haha

Nightmare sorry to pick you up on this but you don't seem to know much about armoured combat. Try stabbing into plate or even a brigandine with anything. You will end up with a sore wrist (assuming one handed) and potentially a dented skull after your opponent smacks you with a heavy falchion or mace. . Its because a slash or traditional (warband style) stab would have failed against the later period armours.

That entirely depends on capabilities of a person and their weapon. And if you want to make this game realistic, then make plate armor cost several hundred thousands of gold.

Ever wondered why people half sworded and used longswords like clubs against heavy armour

Halfswording is horribly overrated technique. Few historicians spew some random crap and suddenly everyone takes it for granted.

And used longswords like clubs? The heck are you smoking mate? Do you actually believe they grabbed the blade of the weapon and used pommel as mace? WTF?

[dreadnok]

Unbalanced is a horrible game mechanic imo. Just make some really slow 1 handers without stab but good swing damage

The game is all about speed, I have a mighty iron war axe, 40 cut 96 speed and it hits like a noodle. The liudao has 103 speed and 34 cut and hits like a truck,  I still like the axe tho for destroying shields

[owens]

Nightmare  YES infact they did

[Nightmare798]

Nightmare  YES infact they did

Oh god you are hllarious. Chances are that, rather than wounding anyone, you would ruin your gauntlets (in the better case) or have your weapon slip out of your hands. It would be reasonable to hit someone with the pommel when using two handed grip, but I fail to see how would grabbing the sword by blade and trying to hit someone with the pommel would do any good.

[JackieChan]

Why not buff some of the current 1h "peasent" weapons? Like falchion, which basically works like a 1 handed axe.

Nobody is using them anyway (apart from the daggers)

[owens]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-sword


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Augsburg_Cod.I.6.4%C2%BA.2_(Codex_Wallerstein)_107v.jpg


Morte Striking: This is when both hands grip the blade to smite with the pommel or crossguard.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/Talhoffer/HT-Web.htm

* Half-swording and morte-striking are best for armoured*
An unarmoured fighter can do both as needed, either against an unarmoured foe or especially against a plate-armoured foe.  A longsword wielded by half-swording lets the fighter strongly set aside a foe’s strike and allows accuracy and power for thrusting, especially for seeking the gaps of plate-armour.  If wielded to morte-strike, it makes for a fearsome attack against a foe whether unarmoured or armoured.  With the pommel it allows battering of plate-armour; and with the crossguard, it allows piercing of its gaps or perhaps the armour itself, and hooking and wrenching of both his armour and the foe himself.  The equally plate-armoured fighter and foe would surely do both half-swording and morte-striking against each other.

Nightmare please show some respect and do some research. I know you are new to communicating with people over the internet. In my opinion that really shouldn't be an excuse for behaving the way you do.

[Nightmare798]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-sword


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Augsburg_Cod.I.6.4%C2%BA.2_(Codex_Wallerstein)_107v.jpg


Morte Striking: This is when both hands grip the blade to smite with the pommel or crossguard.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/Talhoffer/HT-Web.htm



Nightmare please show some respect and do some research. I know you are new to communicating with people over the internet. In my opinion that really shouldn't be an excuse for behaving the way you do.

God I love how you people think that nobody was able to land a decent hit on plate without half swording.

Also, I never heard of anyone that managed to do any damage at all by grabbing the weapon by BLADE and using the POMMEL as MACE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HIGH IS THE PROBABILITTY OF THE SWORD FALLING OUT OF YOUR HANDS?

And even if you did manage to land a hit without breaking your sword or gauntlets, it wouldnt really do as much as you think, because most of soldiers in middle ages had at least metal helmet.

[owens]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bdMfaymGlk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnB2qB5va3I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rqP1F36EMY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4PGAnq6w7Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4W9B_Ybmro


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGA-Q0hlZxw


Mate you are impossible. These blades are not serrated and the blade would surely be gripped tightly to reduce slippage to a minimum. A few of these guys demonstrate the technique, a few are just messing about and others show that you won't cut your hands. I'm not responding to you anymore as you haven't demonstrated any of the responses one expects from a fully functioning mind.

[Nightmare798]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bdMfaymGlk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnB2qB5va3I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rqP1F36EMY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4PGAnq6w7Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4W9B_Ybmro


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGA-Q0hlZxw


Mate you are impossible. These blades are not serrated and the blade would surely be gripped tightly to reduce slippage to a minimum. A few of these guys demonstrate the technique, a few are just messing about and others show that you won't cut your hands. I'm not responding to you anymore as you haven't demonstrated any of the responses one expects from a fully functioning mind.

Believe what you want. Let us all use swords like spear and then grab the blade and beat each other with pommels, because that is their purpose.

HURR DURR the indestructibe plate armor.

[Kafein]

The game is all about speed, I have a mighty iron war axe, 40 cut 96 speed and it hits like a noodle. The liudao has 103 speed and 34 cut and hits like a truck,  I still like the axe tho for destroying shields

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