Longsword vs Katana

[korppis]

Look this is simple physics. The Katana is the lightest sword of that class and the shortest, it should have the best speed rank out of the bastard, hbs, and longsword. It should also have lower damages to represent the lighter blade.

If I swung two baseballs bats that both have the same weight except one was longer, I'd swing the shorter bat faster because it is more compact. The bastard sword currently has 1 more speed rank than the katana despite being heavier and longer.

Seriously change this weapon's stats. I know everyone hates the Katana and the weeaboos that use them, but the current system isn't realistic.

Yeah, this length&weight vs speed factor bugs me too. LS/HBS/BS are perfectly balanced between each others, but katana's stats don't align with them.

On the other hand I kind of like katana being shittier than those others, because it keeps it from becoming too mainstream.

[Molly]

Katana is fine like it is. If anything, then give it a +2 on the stab... 8)

[Ninja_Khorin]

I was drinking my sprite and almost choked after pressing that link in the OP.

Perfect thread to brighten up my hangover.

[Osiris]

katana pays weeeeeeeeaboo tax

[Leshma]

On the other hand I kind of like katana being shittier than those others, because it keeps it from becoming too mainstream.

Oh, it's totally not mainstream...

Katana is the only weapon I can pick up at any given time on siege. By far the most common weapon among new players.

[Angantyr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EDkoj932YFo

Not this guy again. This jarhead retard hosts probably the most ridiculous 'historical' weapons show ever produced, not surprised to find him here at all.

[WITCHCRAFT]

If I swung two baseballs bats that both have the same weight except one was longer, I'd swing the shorter bat faster because it is more compact. The bastard sword currently has 1 more speed rank than the katana despite being heavier and longer.

Unless one of the bats was extremely heavy or shaped like a fan or oar, the difference in speed would be minor. Even less than 1 crpg attack speed (that is a scientifically recognized measurement). Speaking of oars...

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[korppis]

Oh, it's totally not mainstream...

Katana is the only weapon I can pick up at any given time on siege. By far the most common weapon among new players.

That's only because I die -a lot- in there.

[Kafein]

That's only because I die -a lot- in there.

You kill a lot too.

I'd even go as far as saying that despite your ability for blocking, you tend to mindlessly spam swings because the katana just lets you get away with it.

[Utrakil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EDkoj932YFo

I like the videos of scholagladiatoria (his youtube name). He made a series of 8 videos dealing with several myth or facts about the katana.
the video I link is a direct answer to your link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YZDb98Mqnk&list=PLMUtS78ZxryO9NKU_ceM-LhcnSnAc2kHV

I strongly recomment to go through the whole series.

[BlindGuy]

PLEASE stop this shit: BE HAPPY that katana is useable AT ALL:

KATANA: last chance, desperation weapon for a samurai who has been behorsed and disarmed. Not a frontline weapon, ever. Even the japanese KNEW it was NOT a weapon for battle. It is made from bad quality steel, and serves best at slashing unarmed opponents. More of a testament to the noble birth of its carrier than a weapon, the design stayed the same for nearly a thousand years because it is aesthetically pleasing.

The larger bastard swords and the longsword: Technology 500 years in advance of katana, used as a mainline weapon, under constant development and improvement and made from vastly superior steel. No offence to the japanese: you cannot blame them for the natural resources they DIDN'T have.

[Glyph]

Omg stop thinking you know something about medieval weapons because you watched a single youtube clip. Do you really think fighting is just about standing perfectly alined to your target who's is only wearing a breastplate? If you knew anything about medieval combat you would know that how the weapon is balanced, weighted and what kind of steel it is made of(don't get me started on the details of steel) or how long it is seperates a good weapon from a shitty one. STOP ACTING LIKE A GEEK AND LET THE REAL GEEKS HANDLE THIS SHIT!!! Or go and practise Historical European Martial Arts to get insta-geeked about medieval combat like me.

And if you were to ever make a stupid thread like this one again...

I will find you and I will kill you(with a properly made Federsword)

[Muunilinst]

its on german but, just from the video you will understand how overrated the katana is.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

I dunno if the katana should even be in a magical setting where mail or tougher armor is easy to come by. The current behavior of dealing more damage than a heavier weapon of similar length vs mail+ armor doesn't make much sense, even if it is supposed to be better at slicing up unarmored peasants/prisoners.

That's just the trouble with having an engine that doesn't support multiple damage types on a single attack though.

Warband is bad.

[Molly]

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That's just the trouble with having an engine that doesn't support multiple damage types on a single attack though.

Warband is bad.

It does with WSE2 - cmp showed some video once where the hilt does blunt, the blade cut damage - but Overlords are too lazy busy to implement it. Although promised iirc...