Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Leshma]

In the wiki for Russia it says that they have free healthcare since '96 but that care has declined since the collapse of the USSR.  What's the healthcare like in the Ukraine? Just curious because if the wiki page is at all accurate that means Russia provides free healthcare for all of its citizens whereas Ukraine doesn't?  Thanks.

Free healthcare in countries of former soviet-block is

If you happen to get even a remotely serious disease and don't have money to bribe doctors to actually perform surgery (like those they did in USA in the 50s) or to get treatment in another country, you'll be dead in few years time.

Russia does, however, have great doctors. But those aren't free...

[enigmatic_stranger]

Free healthcare in countries of former soviet-block is

If you happen to get even a remotely serious disease and don't have money to bribe doctors to actually perform surgery (like those they did in USA in the 50s) or to get treatment in another country, you'll be dead in few years time.

Russia does, however, have great doctors. But those aren't free...

Yep.

[Strudog]

 
Deutsche Bank estimates that South of Crete there is natural gas, worthy of 427 Bil Euros.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

First of all you need money to begin drilling

Second of all, if you think there is that much Gas under Crete, you are even more deluded than i thought

Third of all, natural gas won't save your economy.

[Panos_]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

First of all you need money to begin drilling

Second of all, if you think there is that much Gas under Crete, you are even more deluded than i thought

thats not my saying you stupid cunt, Deutche Bank estimated that.

God, you`re more stupid than you look, learn to read.

[Strudog]

have you actually read the full report? the only reason they say that there is that much gas there is because of drilling activities by BP and shell in the Nile delta where they found a lot of gas, considering they share the same basin called Herodotus, they have presumed that there will be that much gas on their half of the basin, no drilling or surreys or anything has occurred on the Greek side, so how on earth can they estimate $427 billion worth of gas?

Not only do they believe what was mentioned above, but also that they will become the main supplier of Gas to Europe, if there is that much Gas.

[Panos_]

have you actually read the full report? the only reason they say that there is that much gas there is because of drilling activities by BP and shell in the Nile delta where they found a lot of gas, considering they share the same basin called Herodotus, they have presumed that there will be that much gas on their half of the basin, no drilling or anything has occurred on the Greek side, so how on earth can they estimate $427 billion worth of gas?

presumed?

The gas exists, they just don`t know the exact amount, some say 200bil euros, while others say 427bil euros.


http://english.capital.gr/News.asp?id=1681067

http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/12/04/deutsche-bank-greece-to-earn-e214-billion-from-natural-gas-by-2020/

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_05/12/2012_473090

http://www.euromoney.com/Article/3124174/Greeces-600bn-gas-reserves-to-fuel-recovery.html


Anyway, this thread is about Ukraine, not Greece.

[Strudog]

All those articles just state, we think there is, nothing has been proven.

And i very much doubt the Greek people will see much of that money, it will all b shipped off to Germany before you know it.

the only money the Greeks will make out of this will be through Tax and people gaining jobs.

Im done with this argument back to Ukraine

[Butan]

Can we go back to insulting each others fascist please?

[Christo]

Serb volunteer guys with a "past" in Crimea

[AntiBlitz]

huh? I was only wondering because there are Ukrainians in this thread who could comment on their healthcare...I don't know what you're going on about.

im going on about why the hell you would wanna care what kind of health care they have when the thread has no relations as to anything health care related.  Who gives a fuck about what health care they have when Russia is breathing all over the country from the seats of tanks, thats what im going on about.......Crimea is being take over by russians and now they move to grab more of Ukraine, "hey what kind of health care you Ukrainians have?"

free health care is a shame anyways, its never free, the time it takes you to actually get something done because it was free and you had to wait in some bullshit time cost you either your life or an astronomical amount of time.

Hard to comment on 5 page old posts but really, overnight this discussion moves so quick.

[Grumbs]

Offtopic healthcare stuff:

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http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/

Its not free you pay for it with taxes. Everyone should have access to health care regardless of their economic situation. Its like saying poor people should not have access to education, but this is life and death. Its not just a case of "you get what you pay for" either, it depends on how efficiently its run and how much of the tax budget is put into it

A country doesn't just need to have taxed health care, you can have both

[Butan]

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Panos, I don't get this retarded picture.

Technically part of this poster is wrong, America never went into Syria, they were blocked by Russia from doing so, plus you could flip it the other way round.

That's one of the most retarded pictures I've ever seen, on so many different levels.

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/remove blinker


An educated guess would have shown that the joke here is about the "population approval/disapproval" of such and such military actions, not that USA actually directly invaded Syria/Lybia or that what Russia is doing is good.

The good thing about this joke is that, like Strudog pointed out, it can be flipped the other way around, which is the point of around 90% of the non pro-EU posts in this thread.


/put blinker back


You fascist pigs!

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I Put important part of the post in bold 

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Serb volunteer guys with a "past" in Crimea

Serbs support separatism? Where all this "Kosovo je Srbija" gone?

But they look like true modern Russian cossacks though, like military rednek pokemons:

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[Molly]

The solution to a poor after war Germany, almost destroyed with 30% unemployment rates, sure, einstein was a butcher, but that doesnt mean that he didnt even do anything good for Germany, I`m pretty sure that if Nazees had won the war, einstein would be a hero today

That isn't even historical accurate when you just leave out the important bits 
This part alone is dripping with Neo-Nazi propaganda bullshit, it isn't even funny... oh wait, actually it is funny

Keep it coming

[Torben]

na,  not funny.