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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8820 on: March 28, 2015, 06:14:45 pm »
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Nice veiled attempt at "being objective" at first, now you look proper!

Please comment!
Attempt at being objective? Fishing with grenades is for dumbs, and this people on the video seems are. Your comment about ukranian girl?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8821 on: March 28, 2015, 06:33:36 pm »
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If so then OK, but IMHO shooting at building not good anyways
Do you know what war means? You know, like, in real life, not in Disney movies.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8822 on: March 28, 2015, 06:43:56 pm »
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Do you know what war means? You know, like, in real life, not in Disney movies.
What was your question for? Do you know what war means?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8823 on: March 28, 2015, 06:54:57 pm »
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What was your question for? Do you know what war means?
What was your question for? Do you know what war means?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8824 on: March 28, 2015, 06:56:41 pm »
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What was your question for? Do you know what war means?
I don't know what the real war looks like and didn't understand what your question was for.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8825 on: March 28, 2015, 08:39:18 pm »
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Well, y'see, in war "not good" things happen. Some random building taking damage is the least of anyone's problems.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8826 on: March 28, 2015, 08:56:19 pm »
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For separatists hiding in civilian houses? The majority of such small villages are empty anyway, not even separatists are there.
pretty shure she headshoot 10 of them )) Just admit that she stupid bitch, and wanted to make nice video.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8827 on: March 28, 2015, 09:12:18 pm »
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Well, y'see, in war "not good" things happen. Some random building taking damage is the least of anyone's problems.
Did you see the video? She made it just for fun, and as I know it is ceasefire now. In the west media I see how separatists and Russia are badn that they break ceasefire and so on, and never saw how ukranian army is bad. I don't like to learn only one side's opinion and try to see both sides. What is clear for me, that Russia took Crimea or annexed without any murders. Also Russia helped Donbass in their rebellion with troops and weapons. Ukraine started ATO. Ukranian army shelled Donetsk and Luhansk, because of that more then 1000 civilians were killed. Sometimes this shellings were at positions, where no separatists were noticed. It was schools, hospitals. And I watched opinion of Donbass people and people on the west. Nobody wants this war. And people in Donbass hate Poroshenko.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8828 on: March 28, 2015, 11:21:24 pm »
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of the ones who occupied the spot before or their neighbors.

Oberyn and Xant, this is what I'm talking about. Yes, I know the region had been very probably previously occupied before the Basque arrived, but their presence there is ancient enough that we don't have much in the way of clues, in whatever form. Interestingly enough, even the Inuit didn't find Northern Canada unoccupied, as the now extinct "Dorset people" lived there before.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8829 on: March 28, 2015, 11:58:08 pm »
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What is clear for me, that Russia took Crimea or annexed without any murders.

They executed an old plan/dream, that they had no right to. Ukraine gave away their nuclear weapons so that RF would respects its territory. Of course, RF has had its fat fingers in Ukrainian politics since its inception. Even the RF developed (Excellent) flight sim Su-27 from 1996 had crimea as the only map and scenario, with the main thing being Ukraine vs RF.

Also Russia helped Donbass in their rebellion with troops and weapons.

No, RF created the rebellion, tried to make it look like a natural Maidan. I remember the videos of pure white sandbags blocking streets. It was not a people's revolt, but planned, started, commanded from RF, again with semi-military means. A more advanced version of crimea.

Ukranian army shelled Donetsk and Luhansk

Afair the first reports of artillery being used was RF shelling of Ukrainian troops from across the border. IMO Ukraine commanders had no option but to set hard against hard. RF just responded by escalating the brutality at will. They had thousands of soldiers ready across the border, shuffling them in and out as they wanted.

Sometimes this shellings were at positions, where no separatists were noticed. It was schools, hospitals.

I'm sure shit happens in war, both ways. Sometimes Ukrainian separatists "finds" BUK's and shoot down civilian airplanes.

And I watched opinion of Donbass people and people on the west. Nobody wants this war. And people in Donbass hate Poroshenko.

Considering you are in deep shit if you air your true opinion about separatists, that such opinion would never be broadcast in RF media, that most Ukr sympathizers have run away long time ago, considering that RF propaganda has been bombarding Ukr with bullshit about baby crucifixion style lies since the start of the conflict... well no shit, im sure they hate Poroshenko. The rest of Ukraine now hates Putin though.

Go see the vice documentaries from maidan, crimea and on.

The only thing is that nobody wants this war, except Putin of course. The war is absurd, and its mostly about russian pride.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8830 on: March 29, 2015, 12:46:19 am »
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I remember the videos of pure white sandbags blocking streets. It was not a people's revolt, but planned, started, commanded from RF,
Russian army has a special unit to deploy pure white bags, so if you see white bags - Army close.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8831 on: March 29, 2015, 01:33:24 am »
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pretty shure she headshoot 10 of them )) Just admit that she stupid bitch, and wanted to make nice video.

She is, it's kinda obvious. I'm also sceptical about the whole Aydar batallion.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8832 on: March 29, 2015, 04:44:33 am »
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Russian army has a special unit to deploy pure white bags, so if you see white bags - Army close.
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Of course, the bags could have come from anywhere. Point is that the whole thing seemed artificial, planned and commanded, rather than a people's protest. It looked like, and was, "a copy of maidan" as it would be executed by military thinking people.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8833 on: March 29, 2015, 08:09:00 am »
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Of course, the bags could have come from anywhere. Point is that the whole thing seemed artificial, planned and commanded, rather than a people's protest. It looked like, and was, "a copy of maidan" as it would be executed by military thinking people.
I'm amazed that you are STILL not weary of arguing this :)

As the saying goeas - "if it quacks, like a russian little-green-man, if it acts like a russian little-green-man, it must be a natural local armed uprising against russian propaganda created bullshit".

And then some new moron comes and tries to "explain how it really is"...objectively, based or RT  :D
Incidentally - related piece about this http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/russian-propaganda-exploits-western-weakness/518092.html
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8834 on: March 29, 2015, 09:36:08 am »
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I'm amazed that you are STILL not weary of arguing this :)
As the saying goeas - "if it quacks, like a russian little-green-man, if it acts like a russian little-green-man, it must be a natural local armed uprising against russian propaganda created bullshit".
And then some new moron comes and tries to "explain how it really is"...objectively, based or RT  :D
Incidentally - related piece about this http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/russian-propaganda-exploits-western-weakness/518092.html

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