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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8115 on: February 10, 2015, 10:00:14 pm »
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Okay, i can't resist, here's another example of how Russia continues the fine Soviet traditions of honoring the fallen Russian soldiers from WW2:

There's countless soviet soldier cemeteries littered throughout Eastern Europe. There's at least a couple around my own small hometown. And they're all very clean and well maintained... by the local administration with their own funds. It's not really their duty to do so, they could just stop maintaining them one day and none could blame them.
They have, on multiple occasions, extended offers to the appropriate RF institutions to aid them in maintaining these cemeteries. Afterall, it's Russian soldiers there. They have been refused every single time. Is it not the duty of a decent state to take care of the graves of it's soldiers abroad? But no, all we get is smear over how we disrespect the Russian fallen by removing terrible monuments not even related to them. :rolleyes:

For comparison, quickest i could find: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_War_Graves_Commission

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8116 on: February 10, 2015, 10:03:32 pm »
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Isn't vodka just fermented potatoes?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8117 on: February 10, 2015, 10:31:23 pm »
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You forgot potatoes. Latvians eat potatoes.

Also - DonNicko - I do not know what to think of you: either you are dumb as fuck or just willfully ignorant. Baltics were occupied 3 times during WW2: by russia, then by naztees, then again by russia. If you want to see how "liberating" looks like - allies have liberated France, Belgium, etc. They were liberated, we only exchanged on fucked up overlord for another.

Also - sorry to bring this to you - but casualties by SU are quite comparable to casualties due to Naztees (at least in baltics) and thus comparison of the two is very easy to do even if it makes your grand dads cry or some shit. My grandparents were making roads and railroads for your cleptocracy in siberia, cry about that.
Nothing can say about occupation, this was just agreement between Stalin and einstein. And small countries were like a change coin. And also you can take the resolution of congress of People's Deputies of 1989 where is written that Russia condemns the pact of a molotov-rebentrop, it didn't reflect opinion of the Soviet people, and that was only between Stalin and H itler.
My grand grand parents were killed, because they were too rich, and USSR took all their lands. So your grandparents are lucky to be alive that times. I know maybe more about Stalin, as I said before he was the same as H itler. But you can blame him, why you should blame monuments. And you always try to compare new Russia with USSR with a head Stalin. It sounds stupid.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8118 on: February 10, 2015, 10:32:18 pm »
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Yes, yes, "fašism ņi projģot!" :|

Perkunas dude, perkunas.

We all know u are a closet natzeeee, stop denying it bro  :mrgreen:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8119 on: February 10, 2015, 10:53:50 pm »
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Nothing can say about occupation, this was just agreement between Stalin and einstein. And small countries were like a change coin. And also you can take the resolution of congress of People's Deputies of 1989 where is written that Russia condemns the pact of a molotov-rebentrop, it didn't reflect opinion of the Soviet people, and that was only between Stalin and H itler.
My grand grand parents were killed, because they were too rich, and USSR took all their lands. So your grandparents are lucky to be alive that times. I know maybe more about Stalin, as I said before he was the same as H itler. But you can blame him, why you should blame monuments. And you always try to compare new Russia with USSR with a head Stalin. It sounds stupid.

This sounds like "it wasn't us/me, it was some other russians". Think how differently germans handled their past and SPOT THE DIFFERENCE   :shock:

Monuments are for SU and their bs. So to reverse the question: why should I care about them ONE BIT?



And you always try to compare new Rrussia with USSR with a head Stalin. It sounds stupid.
Pray tell - why is it stupid? Current russia is acting like former cccp/tzardom (or a kleptocracy), so why not compare them? In fact - going a bit further - why do you find them different?

Flag? Well... duh.
Anthem - well... small adjustments to words.
Symbols and heroes - mostly same.
Personality/leader cult - applicable.
Severly limited personal freedom - check.
BEHAVIOR on international scale (which IMO is a defining trait, trumping all of the above) - very comparable, i.e. might-makes-bullshit-and-right, shameless landgrabs. Whats different?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8120 on: February 10, 2015, 11:40:30 pm »
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... About baltic countries I saw only this
(click to show/hide)
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Umm, this is from Bulgaria. You know Balkans not Baltics.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8121 on: February 10, 2015, 11:41:36 pm »
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Fail.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8122 on: February 11, 2015, 06:29:15 am »
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Umm, this is from Bulgaria. You know Balkans not Baltics.
I know that this is Bulgaria, I took this picture to overall everything, in Baltic countries people are not so artistic, they just paint them with one color

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8123 on: February 11, 2015, 08:40:56 am »
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I know that this is Bulgaria, I took this picture to overall everything, in Baltic countries people are not so artistic, they just paint them with one color

For the record - we have a dumpster-park, where you can go and watch all those monuments to no end. I don't think painting them is of interest for anyone atm, they just rot there and fat mmmurricans come and pay money to see that crap. You can come to if you want.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8124 on: February 11, 2015, 08:55:08 am »
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Omg fucking Na Zi stop derailing!   :P
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8125 on: February 11, 2015, 09:02:36 am »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8126 on: February 11, 2015, 09:15:28 am »
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I do not like grechka!, prefer tears Ukrainian children  :P

By the way this morning will be next negotiations, maybe they will stop this shit
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8127 on: February 11, 2015, 09:19:39 am »
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By the way this morning will be next negotiations, maybe they will stop this shit
On this I believe we agree. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8128 on: February 11, 2015, 09:23:38 am »
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Yeah, like that is going to happen.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #8129 on: February 11, 2015, 09:36:24 am »
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Don't think they gonna make any progress. At least nothing meaningful. More like "Yea, well, guess we gonna meet again in 1 month and try again."
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