Meanwhile in Ukraine

[serr]

Там все столько уже всего наговорили...
Сначала Медведев недополученную прибыль записал в долг и заявлял о том что Украина должна 13 млрд, хотя сразу очевидно было что никто не будет эти 10 млрд возвращать. Последний раз вроде говорили о трех с лишним, вроде об упущенной выгоде забыли, но Крым все равно признавать не будут. Хотя бы потому что остается призрачная возможность получить компенсацию. Как ни крути, но Украина вбухала в Крым больше чем с него получила.

Как по мне, продать бы вам оптом Крым и Донбасс, после чего как следует защитить оставшиеся восточные регионы... К сожалению, на такое никто не пойдет ни у нас, ни у вас. Боюсь, эта ерунда в Донецке надолго.

[serr]

Also, for russian speaking, there is forum of Sloviansk, local residents post there a lot about current situation. I find it much more reliable than any media http://torum.org/ .

[Butan]

Thanks for vid, I respect vice news info.

[Molly]

Man, those helicopters are scary...

It's difficult for the army tho. They probably have the heavier equipment to end the separatists rather quickly but can't use it with all those civilians around. They could be sure about that at the airport. Maybe that's why they brought in the cavalry...

[Kafein]

Man, those helicopters are scary...

It's difficult for the army tho. They probably have the heavier equipment to end the separatists rather quickly but can't use it with all those civilians around. They could be sure about that at the airport. Maybe that's why they brought in the cavalry...

I'm pretty sure the second attack helicopter used a minigun given the sound.

[Christo]

I'm pretty sure the second attack helicopter used a minigun given the sound.

yup, it's that signature sound that I'd rather not want to hear in my neighborhood, like ever.

[Vovka]

Man, those helicopters are scary...

It's difficult for the army tho. They probably have the heavier equipment to end the separatists rather quickly but can't use it with all those civilians around. They could be sure about that at the airport. Maybe that's why they brought in the cavalry...

yeah true they are afraid of hurting the civilian population, so instead of using firearms they use artellery, rockets and heavy machine guns on helicopters and on APC 

[Butan]

The cavalry is used to try to have a "morale impact" on separatists, also as a political tool for poroshenko to show strenght.
He said he would end it in hours, if its still not... he's going to lose face.



Afaik they try to not kill civilians but they focus on ending it asap: already quite a few collateral damage has been reported.

[serr]

also as a political tool for poroshenko to show strenght.
He said he would end it in hours, if its still not... he's going to lose face.

Man, don't you read what I write?

Poroshenko is not president, he can't show strength. He'll become president on 7th June.

[Segd]

yeah true they are afraid of hurting the civilian population, so instead of using firearms they use artellery, rockets and heavy machine guns on helicopters and on APC 

The Russian strategy in 1999 was to hold back tanks and armored personnel carriers and subject the entrenched Chechens to an intensive heavy artillery barrage and aerial bombardment before engaging them with relatively small groups of infantry, many with prior training in urban warfare. In a destructive move which was very dangerous to civilians (officially they were Russian citizens), the Russian forces relied heavily on ballistic missiles (SCUD, OTR-21 Tochka) and fuel air explosives. (The TOS-1, a multiple rocket launcher with thermobaric weapon warheads, played a particularly prominent role in the assault).
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[Leshma]

Poroshenko is not president, he can't show strength. He'll become president on 7th June.

Even before actual inauguration, he has more legitimacy to act as a man in charge than those clowns who won their positions after Maidan revolution. Because he was elected, ya know.

[Butan]

Man, don't you read what I write?

Poroshenko is not president, he can't show strength. He'll become president on 7th June.

Why is he making declaration that he will end it in hours then, just before donetsk airport battle?

I dont know the details of your government process to officialy take position, but from outside it looks like he is in command.

[serr]

No, he is not. While Leshma is right and he is already considered to be president by most population, he has no authorities to act yet and our interim president is still Turchinov.

The fact that there will be no second round certainly increased confidence of our army and therefore they started to act harder, but I don't think there is direct connection between Poroshenko's declaration and battle in airport, which started in first place because rebels captured it.

[Vovka]

I wonder what that your media say about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8galpPt0g6E
administrative building in Lugansk

version with niggas

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77a5e9SMPI&list=PLoBNAG_iKEn6ZQN1TprZS5hzKAsbszdcQ&index=4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-7bPkO8TfI&index=8&list=PLoBNAG_iKEn6ZQN1TprZS5hzKAsbszdcQ
btw did dat guys from Vice news with white TV on helmet??? 4-7 sec

[Kuujis]

That it was a case of someone shooting from a grenade launcher at an administrative building and not much more details provided.

Random youtube clip tries to paint this as an attack by Ukraine jets? That jet fired numerous rockets and the video shows only one damaged window and a bunch of torn down leaves/branches, zero craters, which would be expected of rockets... I would say thus, that these are different events. You? 

Pity about wounded/dead, but once you pick up a gun - you are a target. russia and putler define these as terrorists in russia, and does this to them:

The Russian strategy in 1999 was to hold back tanks and armored personnel carriers and subject the entrenched Chechens to an intensive heavy artillery barrage and aerial bombardment before engaging them with relatively small groups of infantry, many with prior training in urban warfare. In a destructive move which was very dangerous to civilians (officially they were Russian citizens), the Russian forces relied heavily on ballistic missiles (SCUD, OTR-21 Tochka) and fuel air explosives. (The TOS-1, a multiple rocket launcher with thermobaric weapon warheads, played a particularly prominent role in the assault).
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