what do the veteran agiwhores think about the new patch?

[//saxon]

they love it until i come and vex em all.

[Gurnisson]

Block down, rondel my old friend neutralized

Except they have a 110 speed side-swings with pierce damage as well.

[San]

I think I'm still relatively new to agi builds, only had one since May. I notice the slowing of strength builds' swings and it's easier for me to hit them with a hammer. Balanced builds are probably the most prevalent and most tricky that I have to deal with. It's more fun overall for me.

[kinngrimm]

kinn please...spam? you backpedal faster than most people run, have almost unbreakable shield, deal crazy damage for 4ps with speed bonus and you talking bout spam...

believe it or not, i can see things out of a prespective of "normal" lvl 30 shielder. And even if only complettly subjectively, then i know exactly how the increases of classes or speed of several weapons feels, how it effects me. So biased sure, wrong not one bit, so spare me the speech about objectivity i am sick of this narrow minded statement anyhow, every last fuck here is subjectiv in his views, even if you try to be objective, that is after all an ideal not a stance. As also, it is not like i am not aware of my build, nor you of mine, why bring it up at all?

[Prpavi]

believe it or not, i can see things out of a prespective of "normal" lvl 30 shielder. And even if only complettly subjectively, then i know exactly how the increases of classes or speed of several weapons feels, how it effects me. So biased sure, wrong not one bit, so spare me the speech about objectivity i am sick of this narrow minded statement anyhow, every last fuck here is subjectiv in his views, even if you try to be objective, that is after all an ideal not a stance. As also, it is not like i am not aware of my build, nor you of mine, why bring it up at all?

Sorry but having 200wpf in 1h and talking about excessive 2h spam is kinda silly.

[kinngrimm]

Sorry but having 200wpf in 1h and talking about excessive 2h spam is kinda silly.

A 'but' neglects pretty much everything in front of it. I guess you are right, but not sorry ^^.

[ArysOakheart]

Did they do something to the trident stab while using a shield? It feels like it glances even more than before.

Edit: Did they change the penalty for using a 2h weapon (or pole) as a 1h with shield?

[Prpavi]

A 'but' neglects pretty much everything in front of it. I guess you are right, but not sorry ^^.

no u!

[kinngrimm]

no u!

love you no matter what anyhow. Peace?

[Prpavi]

love you no matter what anyhow. Peace?

u mad kinn there never was any beef, I just said you a self proclaimed agiwhore was talking about overspam and find it silly.

all good, no bad feels! 

[XyNox]

I cant really believe it but this patch was actually pretty nice for me. I took the opportunity to go agi archer/1h and for the first time since the quiver weight nerf I am able to use footwork without having to drop my bow every 3 seconds when something looks/aims at me and also have enough wpf to hybritize properly. Now I may need even more arrows to kill anything due to less PD but at least people cant backpeddal faster than I walk forward anymore 

Hell, I even ditched my bow on EU2 yesterday for like 4 maps to fully enjoy my new gained mobility and have to say, most fun I had in months with this game. But well, archery being enjoyable, that can only mean that the next nerf is nearby 

[Macropus]

Not sure if I can count as a veteran agiwhore having lvl34 15-30 ninja in the past, but in my opinion the new patch is good. Str still will be OP on strat as long as there's no equipment upkeep on strat as we have it in c-rpg.

[_GTX_]

I cant really believe it but this patch was actually pretty nice for me. I took the opportunity to go agi archer/1h and for the first time since the quiver weight nerf I am able to use footwork without having to drop my bow every 3 seconds when something looks/aims at me and also have enough wpf to hybritize properly. Now I may need even more arrows to kill anything due to less PD but at least people cant backpeddal faster than I walk forward anymore 

Hell, I even ditched my bow on EU2 yesterday for like 4 maps to fully enjoy my new gained mobility and have to say, most fun I had in months with this game. But well, archery being enjoyable, that can only mean that the next nerf is nearby 

Sadly i cant say the same for 2handed weapons, it seemed to become a little less fun. But the patch still did some nice things to the melee str/agi balance.

[Canary]

I haven't had this much wpf since I was above level 40 (RIP olde ex-pea systemme).

As a high level, I decided to roll with the changes instead of going for another stupid-high attribute build (I used to be 21/27 with low WM, I am now 18/27 with maxed WM). For now, I'm enjoying the choice to get more than 190 wpf in my chosen class over a possible 10 athletics (and approximately the same wpf I had before the patch) with the free respec. Being polearm, I don't miss being able to pick up great mauls - yet. The penalty armor weight gives my swings is less noticeable with such high wpf, so a lot of the time I feel like the tradeoff for strength is not very significant (heavy armor more than making up for a couple hit points lost, wpf nearly recouping my damage to what it was). On that note, I've been doing very well in strat battles.


I have an alt that was previously doing a 36/3 gen. With the respec I put it at 30/9, and it's still doin' fine. I've had a different 30/9 character before, and the loss of 11 wpf and 3 IF (or 30~ wpf, which I didn't try before) compared to that one isn't very drastic a change. It's a solid nerf, but the build is still great.


I have yet to have any problems with an overall faster playerbase. It might be my imagination, but I feel as though I'm getting hit by projectiles more often.

[CrazyCracka420]

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25 point warning for "spam"...this is bullshit.

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