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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2013, 10:46:04 pm »
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Dear god, what have you done?? :O
Probably nothing since he hasn't pressed "save stats"- button :lol:
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2013, 10:53:19 pm »
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there is like 80% of agiwhore and 20% of str build but lets buff agi...

this is what i think of this patch who just unbalance crpg imo


Maybe on EU1 but the game is balanced for Strat
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2013, 11:37:10 pm »
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Balance the whole game for a single gamemode that everyone plays for XP instead of fun ... Nice idea ! You will regret what you just said there soon Prpavi. Hang out on EU1 and you will be very quickly pissed off.

Here is why :

Every guy with a bow that said himself he will hybridize sees that he cannot do so without loosing wpfs. Now , every archer just put all wpf in archery and maxes out ATL only to say "fuck you" to devs. They wanted to stop the kiting, it will be back now thanks of this patch.

Also, after a long discussion with blackbow, we agreed on one thing (which is quite rare): the buff of rus and long bow is worthless because it doesn't get any range. It only did reduced the random trajectory factor of the arrow, which is already pretty low with 155 wpf imo. Archery will only be truly OP because of this patch as I said before.

Give Steevee 183 wpf, and give him 197 after the patch. Same for Bagge, which gone to 170 to 183 (?). The result is that they kill everyone and are TRULY OP. But they aren't such a problem because it's only two guys. But imagine if every guy with a bow gets more than 170 ...
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2013, 11:50:27 pm »
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Top lel with +3rondel?  :wink:
So why is this OP abusebuild still viable,  if 39/3 isnt?  No more str crutch is good but it should work both ways, you should need to have STR too.
Also, rondel "nerf" is a joke, its still too OP.
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2013, 11:56:34 pm »
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How I see this patch :

"RANGED YOU HAVE TO KITE ! WHAT ? FIGHT IN MELEE ? HAHAHA NICE JOKE "

"HEY SPAMMERS, YOUR TIME IS OVER ! NOW IT'S TIME TO OVERSPAM !! "


How I see the next patch :

Imo, throwing damage should be slightly reduced while accuracy increased drastically.

"THROWING ? WHAT IS THIS SHIT? GO ARCHER !"


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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2013, 12:12:44 am »
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197 wpf in archery, but remember that in others I still have 1. Shooting speed increase is not noticable, only accuracy a bit compared to one before patch, so it's helping only for long range head shooting, but it's still not a pin shot (close to it but still not a pin). You also have to remember that DMG from ranged is decreasing with increasing of distance :)

Melee are in a way better situation, because they have bonuses to other weapon clases.

Anyway i think it's not so OP for a lvl 35 character. Pure melee could make also a some kine of OP build, like mine in archery.
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2013, 12:13:22 am »
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Balance the whole game for a single gamemode that everyone plays for XP instead of fun ... Nice idea ! You will regret what you just said there soon Prpavi. Hang out on EU1 and you will be very quickly pissed off.


You understood me wrong m8, what I mean't to say is that devs balance the game for strat not Battle of Siege in mind
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2013, 12:28:02 am »
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2013, 03:33:55 am »
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curve is too steep imo
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2013, 03:37:46 am »
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Everyone is using these fucking insane agi speed crazy builds



And I'm just sitting here being a 18/18 shielder like a tard.......
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2013, 04:58:34 am »
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Maybe on EU1 but the game is balanced for Strat

to be honest i dont understand what will be the change for strat ???
ppl will still play with same armors and weapons but with more op melee build
especialy hoplites...
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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2013, 05:07:51 am »
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THANKS FOR BUFFING MY HT TYDEUS LOVE YOU
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2013, 05:08:18 am »
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thanks devs :D

why you do have my exact build except with 2 less 1h and a bit more pole? get outta here!

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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2013, 07:16:15 am »
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i guess devs made these changes to balance str builds, but agiwhores abuse that advantage.
i was lvl 32 21/21 before the patch, i'm gonna check out the changes next week, but i don't think i'll go agiwhoring.

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Re: That WPF. Lol.
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2013, 09:01:38 am »
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Giving less WPF for low AGI would have been enough, didn't need to buff high agi at the same time. Could have even given more WPF for hybrid melees and wouldn't have had the problem of uber high WPF in 1 area like we have now

Anyway i'll wait and see how it goes in the next few weeks, bit too early to call atm. Definately should have just done the patch and then waited a while before offering the respecs though. Now they are kind of stuck with how they balanced it unless they nerf weapons for all builds

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