Will IF be too weak after the WM change?

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

It's going to make the William Tell build retarded. Previously the best you could do was crank up the Heavy Crossbow but now the Arb will be spastic. In the right hands it already dominates.

[Akynos]

Is this an NA-only topic or don't I recognise some of you?

[Scervo]

IF will be much weaker than WM after this patch imo; yes the average amount of health will go down a little bit, but using that same logic someone could have said that weapon mastery was already op because everyone was a slow strength build. They're changing it so that just leveling cant get you enough WM without putting points into it, i think its only logical that IF should work the same way. 3 points in IF gains you what, the chance of being hit one extra time before dying every 3 or so lives? Whereas 3 weapon mastery will now give you at the lower levels 60+ weapon proficiency

[Ronin]

I will pump all of my remaining points into IF when I level up. 5 wm feels like it will be enough.

[Pentecost]

While IF is obviously not as indispensable as power strike or athletics, I have always felt it to be an important skill for melee. Looking at the increase it offers on paper makes it seem unappealing, but when I consider the number of times I have survived a round with less than 10% health left (ie many) I have never regretted spending points on it.

[Ronin]

Once I've seen Vincent_Ruth surviving a couched lance strike from a rohan rider (DTV bot). All because of ironflesh. Remember that, it's good for your health

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

WM change is never gonna happen anyhow.

[pepejul]

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What will happen in new system ?

What can I change to be buffed like a hero I m ?


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[Malaclypse]

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I think with 5 WM you'll have a little less proficiency than you do now, but if you level up and get 18 agi (which it seems you're building for) and 6 WM you'll be pretty much unaffected as I understand it.

[pepejul]

Thanks...  I hope you are right ! 

[HappyPhantom]

What are the proposed/impending WM changes?

[Elindor]

What are the proposed/impending WM changes?

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/wpp-sum-and-cost-formula-rework(includes-wm)/

Anyhow, I think they should still unlink Strength and IF (or at least do so after like 21 Strength) and then have IF be +3 instead of +2.

[pingpong]

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/wpp-sum-and-cost-formula-rework(includes-wm)/

Anyhow, I think they should still unlink Strength and IF (or at least do so after like 21 Strength) and then have IF be +3 instead of +2.

STR giving hp is hardcoded, it cant be changed.

[Elindor]

STR giving hp is hardcoded, it cant be changed.

Oh yeah....   

[Huscarlton_Banks]

It can be changed with 1.153+ operations, you just set the max hp/hp right after the player spawns.

That would require a WSE2 update though.