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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2013, 07:04:40 pm »
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apart from rondel daggers and 1h no shield nudge i think its fine

oh and silly hesky wooden walls were always breakable afaik :D I asked on irc when UIF was QQing and was told yes you catapult them enough they bug  into stone which ofc can be catapulted. (by a dev cant recall which i dont think he was trolling anyway :

Wooden walls used to be unbreakable until very recently.  Wooden castles sucked dick to defend even when they had unbreakable walls. Now they are just terrible (but at least you can break the walls, which is how it should have always been).
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2013, 07:14:32 pm »
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I'd say the game has always been balanced more or less from an NA perspective.  Shifts happen in classes and player skill levels, and from my point of view as primarily a HA/hoplite/longspearman, there have been times when I've been at a disadvantage, but the game wasn't truly unbalanced.

I feel that honest balance arrived when polestun was finally removed.  That had rippling effects throughout the playerbase, but it was a necessity.  I adjusted as a hoplite at the time, as did many other players.  Others didn't, and either didn't bother to improve their playstyles and changed classes, or stopped playing entirely.

Right now the glut of throwers is making my longspear build somewhat challenging, but that doesn't mean throwing is OP.  To solve this problem I know I need to adjust my playstyle and setup, not go bitch on the forums.  These changes in the community make the game more interesting, and improve me as a player, because I learn to deal with new obstacles.

From my view maps are the main balancers of the game.  A map with adequate cover means suddenly melee are advantaged.  Some uphill monstrosity or narrow chokepoint and ranged get to play powerfully.  I know this is an unpopular opinion among the vocal minority on NA, but random plains maps are the best.  Everyone gets to shine if they put the effort in.

I take attempts to "re-balance" my classes as a personal challenge.  The turnspeed reduction forced me to rethink how I played polearms.  It was not a "stop doing that shit, it's overpowered," rather a "let's see if you are good enough to adapt."  I can say I am better for the nerf, because I learned more tricks and valuable assessment skills for the battlefield.

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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2013, 07:15:11 pm »
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Wooden walls used to be unbreakable until very recently.  Wooden castles sucked dick to defend even when they had unbreakable walls. Now they are just terrible (but at least you can break the walls, which is how it should have always been).

how long did you try to catapult before giving up? i know the devs are trolls but i believe this one unless someone shows otherwise :D
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2013, 07:22:21 pm »
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George you are the biggest crying bitch of all here. Since the last patch onehanded is fucking OP and you know it. Don't tell me that i don't knpw anything about it because i both have 1h in my main (100 wpf 5ps unloomed shortsword) and in my alt (21/15, only wearing a dress).

I say it all the time when i use my 1h: GOD DAMN THIS SHIT IS OVER THE TOP OP
All you do is make statements , how about some arguments to back them up so I can prove you wrong. Stating you've got 1hander WPP and you're using a 1hander to prove your not biased means nothing aswel im a lvl 32 Twohander and I think Onehanders are completely fine. Also don't call me bitch please it might hurt my feelings :lol:
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2013, 07:39:49 pm »
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I'd say the game has always been balanced more or less from an NA perspective.  Shifts happen in classes and player skill levels, and from my point of view as primarily a HA/hoplite/longspearman, there have been times when I've been at a disadvantage, but the game wasn't truly unbalanced.

I feel that honest balance arrived when polestun was finally removed.  That had rippling effects throughout the playerbase, but it was a necessity.  I adjusted as a hoplite at the time, as did many other players.  Others didn't, and either didn't bother to improve their playstyles and changed classes, or stopped playing entirely.

Right now the glut of throwers is making my longspear build somewhat challenging, but that doesn't mean throwing is OP.  To solve this problem I know I need to adjust my playstyle and setup, not go bitch on the forums.  These changes in the community make the game more interesting, and improve me as a player, because I learn to deal with new obstacles.

From my view maps are the main balancers of the game.  A map with adequate cover means suddenly melee are advantaged.  Some uphill monstrosity or narrow chokepoint and ranged get to play powerfully.  I know this is an unpopular opinion among the vocal minority on NA, but random plains maps are the best.  Everyone gets to shine if they put the effort in.

I take attempts to "re-balance" my classes as a personal challenge.  The turnspeed reduction forced me to rethink how I played polearms.  It was not a "stop doing that shit, it's overpowered," rather a "let's see if you are good enough to adapt."  I can say I am better for the nerf, because I learned more tricks and valuable assessment skills for the battlefield.

I'd +5 if I could, agree with all points
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2013, 07:53:04 pm »
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What about... fun factor? Don't tell me the only reason why you play certain class is cause it's "stronk" :P


Not really, just don't find running away and hiding most of the time very appealing and fun  :wink:
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2013, 08:41:20 pm »
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i make terrible warband videos! https://youtu.be/jUdVGIOuULk

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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2013, 08:53:10 pm »
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I intend to destroy and rebuilt East Anglia in my quest to form Englaland :D Im king of all saxons!
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2013, 10:41:46 pm »
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I'd say the game has always been balanced more or less from an NA perspective.  Shifts happen in classes and player skill levels, and from my point of view as primarily a HA/hoplite/longspearman, there have been times when I've been at a disadvantage, but the game wasn't truly unbalanced.

I feel that honest balance arrived when polestun was finally removed.  That had rippling effects throughout the playerbase, but it was a necessity.  I adjusted as a hoplite at the time, as did many other players.  Others didn't, and either didn't bother to improve their playstyles and changed classes, or stopped playing entirely.

Right now the glut of throwers is making my longspear build somewhat challenging, but that doesn't mean throwing is OP.  To solve this problem I know I need to adjust my playstyle and setup, not go bitch on the forums.  These changes in the community make the game more interesting, and improve me as a player, because I learn to deal with new obstacles.

From my view maps are the main balancers of the game.  A map with adequate cover means suddenly melee are advantaged.  Some uphill monstrosity or narrow chokepoint and ranged get to play powerfully.  I know this is an unpopular opinion among the vocal minority on NA, but random plains maps are the best.  Everyone gets to shine if they put the effort in.

I take attempts to "re-balance" my classes as a personal challenge.  The turnspeed reduction forced me to rethink how I played polearms.  It was not a "stop doing that shit, it's overpowered," rather a "let's see if you are good enough to adapt."  I can say I am better for the nerf, because I learned more tricks and valuable assessment skills for the battlefield.

What we need to do is to propogate this.
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2013, 11:11:42 am »
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That think the game is quite balanced apart from some minor issues and don't feel the need to constantly tell the devs what a crappy job they did and are still happy playing this game after 3 years of doing so?
DISCUSS.

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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2013, 12:17:45 pm »
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my skill level can handle crpg dont worry about that, and yes i do stick by it that 1 handed stabs and polearmstabs arent chamberable by skill anymore, maybe luck, since they hit before the animation now. i still chamber 2handed stabs with eaz thow. and i handle any class fine imo. i make posts considering the groupplay ballance, a thing that used to be something when crpg was still allive with clan tournaments and the such. thinking people only post shit from an egocentrical view is an eazy scapegoat to ignore someones views. but hey you can keep your opinnion darian, i dont care much for it.

maybe because i dont stab that much with my heavygreatsword. and when i face other gs users i chamber their stabs, or block and get a free hit from their stun. that might be bias, but i used to be able to chamber polearm stabs to, witch nowerdays i just get hit if i try, and since the buff to the 1handed stab the same has been happening , cant activly chamber, only on luck, because the stab is so instant.

2handed stabs are nothing like they used to be, and i think pole and 1handed stabs are stronger atm yes

And this is why I despise 2handers, average skilled players, who just want "EAZ" hits & kills.


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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2013, 12:22:08 pm »
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2013, 03:38:58 pm »
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And this is why I despise 2handers, average skilled players, who just want "EAZ" hits & kills.


Anti-2H hero forever baby.

you do have a way of interpeting things panos
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2013, 03:58:19 pm »
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I am sure those people exist. Mainly having a short dick and a long sword.

Personally I am still playing this game only because of the LOL factor and all the lovable headcases on NA2/1.

Apart from that: no reason to play this game any more if you are a real archer.
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Re: Are there people out there???
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2013, 06:30:39 pm »
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Stab is really hard to chamber in crpg(more based on luck)