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Lazy blocking
« on: October 07, 2013, 01:17:20 am »
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Sometimes you can block incoming sideswings by blocking in the wrong direction. When I asked about it, someone told me it was called a "lazy block"

Can someone explain this concept to me?

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 01:24:03 am »
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You can block either sideswing direction with either side block by just turning your weapon so it faces your opponent. Not sure why it would be called lazy.

There's also a bug where you will occasionally see your block switch immediately after getting hit (either causing you to get hit when you shouldn't have, or block a hit when you shouldn't have). As far as I am aware, this is just the server and client disagreeing on which direction you were blocking.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 01:35:50 am »
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Suppose that you are blocking right and the attacker attacks from right. You block it. Next, the attacker attacks from left and you tilt your character's stance to the left without letting the right block go. This time, you are blocking right but your weapon is positioned so that it still blocks the incoming attack from left. That is what you are asking about I guess.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 06:20:24 am »
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What these guys have described is accurate - it's the act of putting up a side block (either side) and instead of switching between left and right side blocks to intercept incoming side attacks, you simply turn your character.

It works decently, but you can run into issues either certain long weapons going around this or certain short ones going "under it" from what i've experienced.

Best to learn to switch between left and right blocks (and the others)...although this method can be helpful in a pinch :)
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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 07:40:30 am »
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I didn't know this was a real thing. I know I do it pretty frequently (mostly unintentionally) with my pike but wasn't really aware what it was. Thanks for explaining it! I thought I was just retarded or something

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 08:05:06 am »
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I don't think someone uses it intentionally since it's actually harder to do than normal blocking.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 08:36:51 am »
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Huh, I never knew that was a thing. Always more to learn~~~
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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013, 09:34:37 am »
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Its called footwork^^

 
I don't think someone uses it intentionally since it's actually harder to do than normal blocking.
I actually find it much easier during a fight vs a group. I tend to use my 8 athl to run in between them often rarely changing my block because one direction can block most attacks

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 10:28:30 am »
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It is actually very useful in fights against multiple enemies, because you can block two different sideswings in quick succession. I think I've done that 2 times in 4 years, but I have seen others doing it more reliable.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 06:52:45 pm »
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Also useful if you use the inverse attacking directions; go for a chamber, doesn't look like it'll work -> block (It'll probably be the wrong way), turn into the attack.

I do it quite frequently as my style usually has me facing the wrong way :p.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2013, 08:06:24 pm »
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I've only ever done it on accident (usually when trying to fight against a large group of enemies)
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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 08:08:54 pm »
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It is easy and useful once you get used to it. Even a mediocre blocker like me utilizes it to his advantage. Go figure  :mrgreen:

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 08:42:09 pm »
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It's easier than you think in ganks. Very useful.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 12:10:25 am »
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I use this against people who feint a lot. If they have a non-stabbing weapon it especially helps because then I only have to focus on two directions, sideways or up.

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Re: Lazy blocking
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 12:19:17 am »
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I don't think someone uses it intentionally since it's actually harder to do than normal blocking.
Wouldn't say I do it intentionally but I naturally do a left block to an opponent on my left regardless of the swing he is doing, or if I fuck up something I often do a quick save by turning my block. It allows you to keep your camera where you want it in a group fight. It just makes sense. I know some patch accidentally removed this feature and then I quickly found out exactly how much I used it. I made a thread within like an hour of playing because I kept dying when I shouldn't have. Luckily it was re-added soon after.

This seems to really fuck up when trying to block horse slashers though. I just turn any block in between me and the incoming slash but I've had it cut straight through a bunch of times.