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[Kafein]

Those trackpads could work better than a mo...


no.

[[ptx]]

Or could they?

[Torben]

read some great shit about this.  the dude that made windows a gaming plattform (by getting Doom to work for win)  is in charge of it iirc,  and he is doing it again:
this might actually make linux an all out contender for the  OS market by making games more common with it.

concerning the box,  dunno,  as it will be twice the price of standard consoles...

[Kafein]

Or could they?

They never say it's better than a mouse, because it obviously isn't. Maybe I'm a freak doing a 360 over 3cm, but I want my controls to be that sensitive and accurate at the same time.

[[ptx]]

Consider that they were using primitive prototypes in still somewhat early stages of development and that they had no previous experience with such a controller, versus thousands upon thousands of hours with either mouse+keyboard or console controllers. Do the math.

[Tibe]

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[Kafein]

Consider that they were using primitive prototypes in still somewhat early stages of development and that they had no previous experience with such a controller, versus thousands upon thousands of hours with either mouse+keyboard or console controllers. Do the math.

So what ? I've used laptop touchpads for years and they still are crap. Even the best ones have accuracy problems (not for technical reasons but because you can only do so much with fingers) and, perhaps more importantly, lack the smoothness of a proper mouse with mousepad setting as soon as your hands get even a little bit sweaty.

I've used a trackball mouse for 4 years, I even used it for playing Warband and it worked. But the main advantage of it was not accuracy, it was the ease of not having to move your arm ever plus limitless scrolling with very little downtime when you had to keep moving the pointer in one direction (the whole grabbing the mouse and putting it back somewhere else business takes more time than moving your thumb). The main problem was maintenance. Every now and then (sometimes twice a day) I had to clean the inside because the ball would stop rolling properly. And lack of accuracy second.

[Tibe]

I for one think the controller looks alright. Not having analogsticks however....I dunt get why this? The mouse and keyboard are like the most perfect tools for playing games that arent sports and racing, why couldnt they have figured something out similar to this. Kafein is right. Touchpads just suck. You can use it however you like and long, but it will suck forever. Some things just dont bloody work.

[[ptx]]

So what ? I've used laptop touchpads for years and they still are crap. Even the best ones have accuracy problems (not for technical reasons but because you can only do so much with fingers) and, perhaps more importantly, lack the smoothness of a proper mouse with mousepad setting as soon as your hands get even a little bit sweaty.

I've used a trackball mouse for 4 years, I even used it for playing Warband and it worked. But the main advantage of it was not accuracy, it was the ease of not having to move your arm ever plus limitless scrolling with very little downtime when you had to keep moving the pointer in one direction (the whole grabbing the mouse and putting it back somewhere else business takes more time than moving your thumb). The main problem was maintenance. Every now and then (sometimes twice a day) I had to clean the inside because the ball would stop rolling properly. And lack of accuracy second.

Okay? What do laptop touchpads got to do with this? This is something completely different. If you were to read those dev impressions, they even explicitly state that it's nothing like any touchpad they've ever used.

[zagibu]

Not having analogsticks however....I dunt get why this?

Because analog sticks suck compared to these touchpads?

[Rumblood]

Because analog sticks suck.

[Butan]

I welcome any technological advance in controllers. As long as it is objectively superior.

Then there is the fact that those born and raised with NES/PS1 controls have some difficulties to adapt, like me. I'm sure the younglings that will be born and raised with trackpads/motion control will laugh at us and headshot us with precision in the near future 

[rufio]

I welcome any technological advance in controllers. As long as it is objectively superior.

Then there is the fact that those born and raised with NES/PS1 controls have some difficulties to adapt, like me. I'm sure the younglings that will be born and raised with trackpads/motion control will laugh at us and headshot us with precision in the near future 

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[Kafein]

Everyone relevant today was born with M&K tho

[Rumblood]

Those trackpads could work better than a mo...


no.

They don't have to though, they just need to make FPS's tolerable on the console. I bought The Last of Us for the PS3 because I thought it was mainly going to be a storytelling game like The Walking Dead. Turns out its a shooter. Console controllers are so intolerable for a shooter that I turned it off about an hour into the game because it was like trying to use a pencil with flippers.