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Offline EliteDragon

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2011, 03:52:12 am »
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@People complaining about throwing gimps

The only unbiased goal for balancing any game:  Every class and build has the same ability to top a scoreboard or win the round.

That's what every other game has for balancing. The only reason it doesn't apply here is because whiners get what they want; when they don't they start crying and trolling and then it happens anyway.

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #121 on: May 13, 2011, 03:59:28 am »
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@People complaining about throwing gimps

The current argument for reducing ammo for throwers is that it is unrealistic to carry that many throwing. Which is fine, I am all for realism.

But to maintain balance you have to increase something else to make up for it. That never happens, because of the reasoning used for balancing.
That is "cheap" and "there is too much of that" is all opinion and should never be used to balance.

The only unbiased goal for balancing any game:  Every class and build has the same ability to top a scoreboard or win the round.

There is nothing wrong with "cheap" but there is something wrong with being overpowered.
Does anyone else agree with this?
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I totally do.
Moreover a good clue to see if a class is too much nerfed , is to look how many player plays it.
after 0.220 three fourth of thrower are gone. Only real thrower remained , the other took again there real class (two handed thrower went back only two hand , same for onehanded shield thrower)
But since 0.223 even real thrower playing it since the begining are getting to other class. Nobody plays them on server. Even thrower throwing cheap ammo (war darts) have been nerfed.
Or take throwing lance for example. You could put his price to 20 000 , ask 8 or 9 power throw to be able to carry it ,  and let people carry 4 or 6 of them so it would be only against cav and useless against infantery    .. But now , we can carry only 2 of them , i concede that they only cost 8000 but who will carry only two ammo when you know that on good horses one is not enough to kill?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 04:02:01 am by Cosmos_Shielder »

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #122 on: May 13, 2011, 04:11:42 am »
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chadz, stop with the fuckin' smoke and mirrors.
Just keep track of WHAT YOU CHANGE.
and then POST IT.

A changelog is;
"Heavy Lance -10 speed"
"Huscarl Shield +1000 gold"
"Crash when opening 0.222 fixed"
etc etc.

You gotta be kidding me. What am I, a secretary?

That would postpone strategus to 2012

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #123 on: May 13, 2011, 04:12:36 am »
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man are y'all holding chadz captive and forcing him to code all day, cool though!

save the chadz  :!:

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #124 on: May 13, 2011, 04:13:50 am »
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Yeah tbh I was fine being killed by cav and throwers. I get killed by everything. I think too many people got comfortable with their mainstream builds (you know who you are) and when throwing got buffed (maybe a LITTLE too much), wahwahwah. I don't even remember cavalry being buffed... cav players just started doing well. Then BAM nerf.
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Re: 0.223
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2011, 04:48:40 am »
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They nerfed my GLA, hopefully people will stop using it so i can be the only one with it again muhahahahaha.

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #126 on: May 13, 2011, 05:01:50 am »
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You gotta be kidding me. What am I, a secretary?

That would postpone strategus to 2012

How exactly do you keep tack of all the changes you've made if you don't write it down?

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #127 on: May 13, 2011, 05:18:03 am »
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by reciting them  :P
most profets didn't use changelogs either :mrgreen:

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #128 on: May 13, 2011, 06:16:43 am »
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All I see is wasted donations for no apparent improvement ... balance this , balance that , change this a little bit ... but it took so many months for a few things ? Some people get paid sitting on their ass doing not much I presume ... I really hope I'm wrong

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #129 on: May 13, 2011, 07:30:02 am »
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You gotta be kidding me. What am I, a secretary?


Guys, guys.... read the description chadz has under his profile.   "The lazy Administrator"

Let that sink in.

chadz is "Chaotic Neutral"  You cant expect him to follow a system.
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Re: 0.223
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2011, 08:07:52 am »
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You gotta be kidding me. What am I, a secretary?

That would postpone strategus to 2012

Have one of your men keep a track of all the changes

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2011, 08:24:13 am »
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Have one of your men keep a track of all the changes

I'll do it:


Changelog 1:  Archers rebalanced to be less effective.  Skill-level of mod increased by 10.  Whine level of forums increased by 20.
Changelog 2:  Xbows rebalanced to be less effective.  Skill-level of mod increased by 5.  Whine on forums increased by 3... must work harder on this.
Changelog 3:  Cav rebalanced to be just as effective.  Skill-level of...wait a minute
Changelog 4:  Throwing rebalanced to be less effective.  Skill-level of mod increased by 50.  Whine level on forums increased by 100.  Exxxxcellent.


+500 to you chadz, though I'll have to give it to you in installments.   :mrgreen:
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Re: 0.223
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2011, 08:39:39 am »
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Why oh why did you had to make my sword even shorter, 117? Pathetic... :D

other than that, havent played new patch yet, gonna try today :) but from the look at my char, 3 cm less on weapon :(

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #133 on: May 13, 2011, 08:50:38 am »
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The latest patches are very good indeed. But the changelog is really needed

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Re: 0.223
« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2011, 08:52:08 am »
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Seriously horses heirlooms were the best in the game, they just rebalanced them with all the other heirlooms.  You still get +2 speed/+2 maneuverability additional armor and hitpoints and charge damage, compared to +1 speed/+3 damage for most weapons.
is it hard to get that ppl pissed off about rebalancing looms AFTA they placed loom points in it?! Idc about nowadays cav balance or what will it be tommorow. I care about 3 wasted loom points. btw compare horse looms & weap looms is a bit wierd - they got different upkeep dont u think?
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