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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2013, 04:57:18 pm »
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hard to spot sarcasm, right?


going to try intermittent fasting for a while

http://www.youtube.com/user/fastingtwins?feature=watch

I've fasted and it works if you've got too much pooch to your paunch. It is especially effective if you are having trouble breaking off from bad eating habits. Once you've gone a week on just juice and the occasional glass of skim milk, you won't want to eat some of the really bad things you are addicted to consuming. It is far easier to begin a new diet regime at that point because you will be happy with ANY food. Just don't start cheating or you will end up back where you were and have to fast again, which isn't entirely pleasant.
Those twins are crazy and pretty funny  :lol:
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2013, 05:58:40 pm »
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I've fasted and it works if you've got too much pooch to your paunch. It is especially effective if you are having trouble breaking off from bad eating habits. Once you've gone a week on just juice and the occasional glass of skim milk, you won't want to eat some of the really bad things you are addicted to consuming. It is far easier to begin a new diet regime at that point because you will be happy with ANY food. Just don't start cheating or you will end up back where you were and have to fast again, which isn't entirely pleasant.
Those twins are crazy and pretty funny  :lol:
You only drank milk and juice? That seems like the worst thing you can do D:

fasting doesn't mean you don't eat, it just means  you eat in a smaller time span, but you still eat your same calories and macronutrients!
Especially drinking your calories is a bad idea because it doesn't fill you and they are full of sugars.

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2013, 09:27:40 pm »
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You only drank milk and juice? That seems like the worst thing you can do D:

fasting doesn't mean you don't eat, it just means  you eat in a smaller time span, but you still eat your same calories and macronutrients!
Especially drinking your calories is a bad idea because it doesn't fill you and they are full of sugars.

Fasting DOES mean you don't eat  :rolleyes: Seriously, words mean things. All you (and those twins) are talking about doing is eating in one time window and misnaming it "intermittent fasting". It isn't fasting. Its a dietary regimen. Otherwise, I fast 3 times a day! From 8am till 1pm, from 2pm till 7pm, from 8pm till 7am! Woo! Fasting rocks!

You drink mostly water and take a multi-vitamin, but if your hunger pains gets really bad you can have a glass of juice or skim milk. You don't drink gallons of the stuff, geezus. A glass a day if you need it. I've lost as much as 8% of my body weight in 1 week doing it. It isn't easy, but it does work if you are a fat boy and have the fat to lose. If you are already a skinny fuck, no, you wouldn't do it because your body would being feeding off of muscle and not fat.

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2013, 01:30:50 pm »
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yeah, but fasting is pretty unhealthy.

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2013, 06:15:29 pm »
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yeah, but fasting is pretty unhealthy.

So is being a lard ass!  :P
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2013, 11:57:47 am »
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there are better diet techniques/diets to lose weight than not eating! They will also turn out healthier, easier and with results that don't disappear the second you stop your diet.

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2013, 05:59:33 pm »
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there are better diet techniques/diets to lose weight than not eating! They will also turn out healthier, easier and with results that don't disappear the second you stop your diet.

Fat, salt, and sugar are addictions just like drugs. To break the cycle, just like drugs, the most effective method is quitting cold turkey. You want to make a change? Struggling with breaking the old bad habits? Go cold turkey and fast for a week. It is a practice that has been done for eons and is a crucial element to detoxification. Once you have cleaned your system, if you go back to old bad habits, yes, you have wasted your time. But most of the junk food that you were eating will taste bad and make you feel bad in a way that you did not detect previously because you were also getting the endorphine rewards for the behavior and were used to feeling bad as a result of your diet. It is the perfect way to switch to a healthy diet as an apple will taste good, brown rice will taste good, and so will just about any healthy food as your body will be craving those good nutrients. This method works, unlike the vast majority of diets on the market because it breaks the cycle, allowing you to make a change without the cravings and temptations that other diets perpetuate because they never break the cycle or drag it out over months and depend upon willpower alone for those months while taking nearly as long to show significant results.
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2013, 08:44:44 pm »
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Rumblood is actually for the most part correct.

I have personal experience in this as a wrestler where I would have to fast for 2-3 days in order to make weight for a meet or tournament that upcoming weekend

Rumblood is correct that for a time, I loved healthy foods and fatty, sugary foods made me feel bloated and sick. I have never been able to quit bad foods like I have been able to when fasting. unfortunately I slipped into bad habits and now I'm a fatass again but oh well. 

However, I wouldn't say that fasting is the healthiest way to go about things due to little things like muscle deterioration and stomach problems for certain people. Also that could lead down to the road of anorexia/bulimia which I have seen occur to other wrestlers/ex-wrestlers.

 

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2013, 09:04:38 pm »
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Haven't worked out for years, I don't know how I am still fluctuating between 80-84kg with my appetite.
I'm 187 cm or so. Used to be really active though. Plus I'm a smoker.

Anyway, good thread, may use this as reference if I ever get my shit together.
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2013, 09:22:17 pm »
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Haven't worked out for years, I don't know how I am still fluctuating between 80-84kg with my appetite.
I'm 187 cm or so. Used to be really active though. Plus I'm a smoker.

Anyway, good thread, may use this as reference if I ever get my shit together.
start now with myfitnesspal, just write down whatever you eat, it takes a minute on your pc and even less if you have a smartphone (you can just scan the bar code and you can be almost certain the food is in the database). You'll probably notice your diet is not optimal and that you can easily change it a bit by making other foods choices.

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I can't tell because I would never try it, changing to better foods was a pretty small step, but I can certainly tell that you are living very unhealthy for that week. And that does matter! Getting a habit of drinking juice when you are hungry certainly is something nobody wants.

I can most certainly tell that most people (unless the ones with extreme willpower) will just start craving after their week of fasting. They have felt hungry all the time while they have been injecting their body with simple sugars. Their metabolism is out of balance and your body will probably have gone in starvation mode which makes it store as much fat as possible.
You are living all the time on a lower calorie intake than you burn each day and your body will burn as much fat as muscle. If it's correct what you say you will stay away from fast foods, but you will have brought your body in a state that is absolutely not optimal for losing weight.

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2013, 01:03:22 am »
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I can most certainly tell that most people (unless the ones with extreme willpower) will just start craving after their week of fasting. They have felt hungry all the time while they have been injecting their body with simple sugars.

You haven't done it, so you don't know what you are saying. The only craving you might have is one for fruit which is a critical part of any healthy diet. And you aren't "injecting your body with simple sugars". Are you telling me that you don't drink juice as part of your diet? I'm not talking about "juice cocktails", I'm talking about 100% real actual fruit juice, and like I already said, you aren't drinking gallons of it, you can have a glass if you really cant take just water and nothing else. 20g in a typical glass of orange juice is 1/6 of the recommended daily carbohydrate intake and when you aren't eating, every bit of that is burned, not converted to fat. Your body does not convert carbohydrates to fat when it is already breaking down fat for fuel!
But if you are so concerned that you will become a mainlining sugar addict, then don't drink the juice, drink the skim milk or man up and stick with just water like I do.
When you break your fast, you don't consume a 2000 calorie cheesburger and fries with an ice cream milkshake. That destroys the whole purpose of doing it in the first place (and it would very very likely make you puke anyhow). You start with the basics and slowly add the healthy ingredients to your diet, and juice is part of a healthy diet and a far better habit than reaching for a candy bar or soda.

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If it's correct what you say you will stay away from fast foods, but you will have brought your body in a state that is absolutely not optimal for losing weight.

There is only one way to lose weight. Calories burned > calories consumed. That's it. Everything else is mumbo jumbo or about a healthy diet, which is WAY important, but unrelated to actually losing weight.
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2013, 01:05:21 am »
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My solution is rather simple :

I'm young, I can eat anything and my belly stays the same

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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2013, 01:08:56 am »
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Rumblood is actually for the most part correct.

I have personal experience in this as a wrestler where I would have to fast for 2-3 days in order to make weight for a meet or tournament that upcoming weekend

Rumblood is correct that for a time, I loved healthy foods and fatty, sugary foods made me feel bloated and sick. I have never been able to quit bad foods like I have been able to when fasting. unfortunately I slipped into bad habits and now I'm a fatass again but oh well. 

However, I wouldn't say that fasting is the healthiest way to go about things due to little things like muscle deterioration and stomach problems for certain people. Also that could lead down to the road of anorexia/bulimia which I have seen occur to other wrestlers/ex-wrestlers.

 

Wrestler eh? You amateur or professional wrestler?
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Re: NUTRITION THREAD
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2013, 01:06:37 pm »
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Wrestler eh? You amateur or professional wrestler?

I hope u aren't talking about that wwf shit

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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2013, 01:09:11 pm »
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This thread  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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