Perspective on mutliclanning

[RandomDude]

As with most things this is about moderation.

Being a member of one clan and playing with 1-3 other clans occasionally is just not a big deal and I doubt anybody will care.

Being a member of one clan but then keeping alts in 10+ other clans so you can banner hop on a regular basis, effectively means you are not in the one clan anymore and so it crosses the line.

The OP isnt a member of any clan though so does it matter now if he has 10-20 alts/banners?

[Miwiw]

Guess why he isn't a member of a clan anymore. 

[RandomDude]

Guess why he isn't a member of a clan anymore. 

Was he ever a member of a clan in his own eyes?

[Miwiw]

Does that even matter? He joined HRE as any other member, so he obviously was a member.

But who cares...

[zottlmarsch]

ADD LEDERHOSEN!

[witchhunter]

maybe you should read what a clan is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan
i know that a clan in terms of online gaming is not the same, but it basically derives exactly from that.
also you should read up on banners.

in short it is about representation, not socializing. therefor banner- or clanhopping is not about representing but just leeching. some people allow it, others dont.
by representing a clan you advertise whatever that clan stands for/achieved and earn further prestige according to the clans general agenda. in most games this is a two sided thing where you are basically just accepted for one side because they see each other as mutually exclusive. in crpg/warband you dont have just 2 sides, but still some factions that exclude each other.

considering that this game is about teamplay, it is not important which clan/banner/faction you are in. reminds me of that merc who tried to command the public mob on eu_1 years ago, sometimes successfully. and there are others nowadays who can rely on people following them just because they are recognized in battle. (representation!)

For me, it's interesting to discuss about this in a scientific way

a forum full of trolls is the worst place to go for that. talk to social workers or something similar.

[RandomDude]

Does that even matter? He joined HRE as any other member, so he obviously was a member.

But who cares...

You can't just look at it from one point of view. Something that you think is small can be a big thing to someone else. Your black is his white etc etc.

[witchhunter]

everyone who wears our banner agreed to our terms. basically that means you either have applied as a member of our clan or you are a fallen member who is using our banner for teamplay reasons (aka bannerstacking).

[Strudog]

You've gotta love Clan drama that is brought onto the forums

[Umbra]

ADD LEDERHOSEN!

This is now a lederhosen support thread.

ADD LEDERHOSEN!!!

[Lennu]

Clan membership also means dedication for the clan. If you spend most of your time jumping from on teamspeak to another, you've clearly misunderstood something.
If you're not part of any clan, you have no responsibility. No one will get upset/jealous. But if you're hopping from teamspeak to another too much, people wont get to know you, and you wont get to know others. There is just too many players and too little time, or well there is time but you won't get to play with same people often enough for them to remember you If you "force them" to get to you know you = you talk all the time , they will get annoyed because they probably won't give a shit about you, instead they want to focus on dodging arrows on EU_1 or leveling up their own archer alt.

[Blueberry Muffin]

Clan membership also means dedication for the clan. If you spend most of your time jumping from on teamspeak to another, you've clearly misunderstood something.

+1

Loyalty means something, even in an online game.

[Rico]

Since the addition of the armory I can see it offensive to some using there looms and not showing proper respect.

You can't take whatever items you want from armories without asking the supervisors. Additionally, as soon as you leave one ladder to join another, all items you had from the armory are gone.

Effectively, I only play with my main, so the armory is not relevant - there are no alt characters ingame.

[Rico]

Was he ever a member of a clan in his own eyes?

I used to be, but some groups are too serious about Strategus, clan rules and playing exclusively with them. Once you know everyone and want to meet more people ingame, being in a clan becomes an obstacle.

This is why I now distinguish between own definitions of clans and banner groups, and I only join the latters.

[Rico]

But now i finally understand. You're like an emo, you cannot accept the world and everything is bad and you want to change it but you don't get that it is right so you QQ and cut your veins.

I am just trying to live life the way I like, and I am currently finding out restrains to know how people think and how far you can go. It's better doing this in an online game than with people you acutally know.

I don't understand why some people think it can be only one clan, football club, religion, profession, girlfriend, personality, and so on. But I am either trying to accept it, or to work around it.