Current Map Cycle with Screenshots

[Viriathus]

I didnt even get to play the map, to be honest. I made it suposed to be archer friendly, cav friendly and melee friendly. Half of the map is open terrain, another half is a narrow gap.

It should please every type of player.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Bounty seems to function fine to me, never noticed many people leave or complain during it either.
Also please remove Lochhaven ATS, siege maps aren't suited for battle, map is pretty much completely unplayable as cav, it's gameplay is 90% of the time whoever gets to the keep first camps until the other people charge and die.

[CrazyCracka420]

Please don't blanket put ATS "fun" maps in the rotation without looking them over first...we already have a majority of maps that are enclosed maps (i.e. city maps with lots of buildings to hide behind, and only a couple paths to go).  I stopped playing counter-strike years ago, I don't want to add more counter-strike-esque maps to crpg than we already have.

[dynamike]

As a totally unbiased cav player I second the motion of my esteemed colleagues and kindly request every map be replaced with RandomSteppe#27

/ sarcasm

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Get up those ATS maps because not every map has to be balanced for all classes - as long as the map rotation in total is balanced.

Bring back the fun!

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

]Get up those ATS maps because not every map has to be balanced for all classes - as long as the map rotation in total is balanced.

Bring back the fun!

Take a look at the map rotation, it is in no way "balanced"

[Teeth]

What type of maps are lacking then?

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

What type of maps are lacking then?

Open ones, we don't even have 10 of them in there, we got plenty of nice ones submitted to the rotation, yet they aren't included.
Also, Dynamike, Lochhaven ATS is a horrible siege map, there were far more cav unfriendly ATS maps in Jackos rotations that I didn't really mind, Lochhaven sucks though.

[Teeth]

Depends on your definition of open I guess, but I generally agree. I just don't think people appreciate very open maps as in devoid of any cover though, the crying is enormous everytime a random plains comes a long even when it is nice and flat. I could easily generate some nice flat random plains, maybe add a shallow river or a bunch of rocks and add those as fixed maps, as I don't like the random himalayan mountains often created by the actual random maps. Doubt most people would appreciate it though.

Open ones, we don't even have 10 of them in there, we got plenty of nice ones submitted to the rotation, yet they aren't included.

Like which? I tend to find people shy away from creating open maps as they feel its too simple or it doesn't allow them much creativity.

[Kato]

Pls, remove Goat Road, its worst map in current rotation.
I am sure most of the playerbase think the same (at least base on hate in chat everytime this map is on).

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Sorry Zlisch

<3
Kato

[Kato]

Depends on your definition of open I guess, but I generally agree. I just don't think people appreciate very open maps as in devoid of any cover though, the crying is enormous everytime a random plains comes a long even when it is nice and flat. I could easily generate some nice flat random plains, maybe add a shallow river or a bunch of rocks and add those as fixed maps, as I don't like the random himalayan mountains often created by the actual random maps. Doubt most people would appreciate it though.
Like which? I tend to find people shy away from creating open maps as they feel its too simple or it doesn't allow them much creativity.

Chagan_Arslan made tons of great flat open maps, I love Tilting at windmills most.
http://forum.melee.org/scene-editing/natural-maps/


EDIT: sry for double post

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Depends on your definition of open I guess, but I generally agree. I just don't think people appreciate very open maps as in devoid of any cover though, the crying is enormous everytime a random plains comes a long even when it is nice and flat. I could easily generate some nice flat random plains, maybe add a shallow river or a bunch of rocks and add those as fixed maps, as I don't like the random himalayan mountains often created by the actual random maps. Doubt most people would appreciate it though.
Like which? I tend to find people shy away from creating open maps as they feel its too simple or it doesn't allow them much creativity.

My definition of open maps is large open areas, with no spots unreachable with cav, no buildings forcing people into tight spots, not a large amount of ruins, and no fucking huge mountains.

Like which? Tumulus, Spring Flood, and while it is slightly  a village map, Hun in the sun.'

Also Kato, <3 u too, please remove my map btw, gonna be several months before I get a patch out I'm satisfied

[dynamike]

ATS SUPER AWESOME FUN MAPS

PM'ed Teeth with this already, but for good form and visibility:

Any updates on re-adding some ATS maps? 

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Map people, mind stating why Tumulus or whatever it was called by Jacko was removed? I miss it like crazy.

[Teeth]

I found that the height of the hills each team spawned at caused them to be perceived as superior positions, causing people to camp them endlessly. Boring and long rounds with both teams being very hesistant to charge. The team that camped and as such lost less cohesion and stragglers to cav mostly won.

Any updates on re-adding some ATS maps? 

Still gotta look through the last 30 but there is very little in there that even has a chance of being added. A lot of ridiculous map designs that would not work at all and often rather poor quality visual wise. Got pretty nostalgic looking at some of them, but nostalgia wears of quickly and is not a good reason to add bad maps. Written down a few that with some adjustments could work, but don't count on much.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

I found that the height of the hills each team spawned at caused them to be perceived as superior positions, causing people to camp them endlessly. Boring and long rounds with both teams being very hesistant to charge. The team that camped and as such lost less cohesion and stragglers to cav mostly won.

Thanks for the info, yeah I guess it's true about 50% of the rounds had one side camping, from what I recall that side usually lost though.