[Extra Credits video] Balancing for Skill

[Matey]

I'm not going to address str or agi builds because fuck the police.

I think the game actually goes circular with its skill progression. Using a shield is pretty good before you learn to manual block. Then you realize that not using a shield is actually kind of superior. But then you realize you die to ranged alot, so you try that. Then you realize that shielders can mow you the fuck down. Then you switch to shielder and realize that it sucks and is hard and you switch to two hand, and so on and so on.

how dare you acknowledge that shielding is actually hard! everyone assumes it is ez mode cause lolshieldblockez.

[CrazyCracka420]

There's an old picture of something like that. It's about the skill curve and it ends with the conclusion that everything is mostly balanced.

Hopefully someone has it saved and will post it...saw it not too long ago

[Kajia]

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[CrazyCracka420]

That's it! Thank you (will save it this time).

I've always felt the game was pretty balanced (at least in the last 2 years, even with all the nerfs and buffs, which I thought were unnecessary for the most part).  But then again, I've pretty much always been lance/1h/shield cavalry.  I think it's a very accurate progression map.

[Elindor]

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I'd be interested in a written walkthrough of this if someone wants to summarize it lol.  I get most of it, but is it suggesting that the ultimate step is to start using javelin's?

I also don't know if I'd say that the majority of the population is that far down anymore lol ... I think they've migrated up some maybe.

[CrazyCracka420]

I don't think javelin users are the master race, or that was what the picture was implying.  I think it more represents the fact you think you have most of the game mastered, and it's pretty well balanced, and then you get a thrower to fuck up your day. 

Also would agree that the majority of the population is probably in the decent blocking phase or higher.

[Elindor]

Gotcha, I do agree with the overall idea of it though...game is pretty well balanced all things considered.

[CrazyCracka420]

Did a quick google search and looks like it came from May 2010, and has people giving their analysis in the thread:

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=115140.0

[Kafein]

And now in 2013 we get people going in reverse

thinking they are here

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while really they are here

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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

And now in 2013 we get people going in reverse

thinking they are here

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while really they are here

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Mad cause not at the state when spam fails on you.

[Ronin]

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If I'm not mistaken, this picture is used for native not for cRPG.

That's why javelins are on the top, because they are fundamental to playing infantry.

You can also understand it from the the spam fails section. Because spam never fails in cRPG.

[Teeth]

I think the javelin refers to at that point being able to beat most people with a javelin in melee mode, as I think neih was fond of doing.

[Falka]

I think the javelin refers to at that point being able to beat most people with a javelin in melee mode, as I think neih was fond of doing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajtlvz1ze8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL94B46936DB0F0A78

[Kafein]

Mad cause not at the state when spam fails on you.

Mad because those filthy luckers don't let me feint the hell out of them.

The only thing spam promotes is a blockfest.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Mad because those filthy luckers don't let me feint the hell out of them.

The only thing spam promotes is a blockfest.

If someone spams, hold, if someone feintspams, make a chamberattempt on his first feint, if he releases, you chamber, if he feints, you get a free hit, if he hold, you're likely gonna get fucked.