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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2011, 02:52:00 am »
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Immune? Now that would be overpowered. Even my plated charger takes damage from their arrows.

Heavy Cavalry is even more hopeless against horse archers, due to lack of speed and manouverability to keep up with them.

But yeah, the high cost isn't justified anymore, not with these stats.

Well, it depends on the situation. HAs will allways be better the less people alive there are, because this class is, put harshly, a game design flaw. Allowing nothing to compete on equal ground with it apart from itself in 1v1 situations is just wrong.

However, the more people alive there is, the more interesting heavy horses are, because you don't have to settle all your problems by yourself, so you can lack speed.

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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2011, 12:41:13 pm »
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We need to take the power of agility of horses into account and balance the horse prices (decreased for armored, increased for agile). Also, because this is both more realistic and balanced, increase the riding requirement of agile horses, and decrease it for slow horses (armored ones mostly).

Excellent point. Fast horses have always been priceless.

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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 03:15:28 pm »
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make arabian warhorse and courser 6-7 riding skill and warhorse 4, large warhorse/cataphrakt/charger 5 and mamluke and plated 6
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 03:25:39 pm »
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Since the requirement would be higher, it would also diminish the boost to the horse's stats when the rider go for very high Riding skill. Might work.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2011, 03:31:54 pm »
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yeah that's the idea! and a lot of people will go for 50% of the time rouncey and 50% of the time armored horse with this.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2011, 04:52:34 pm »
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I don't see how making the requirements higher would fix anything. Most people go for 6 riding anyway, not to mention the HA's who go for around 8. It would fix nothing.

The repair cost on these horses are ridiculous, that was my point all along. I find myself never using my armoured horses anymore unless I'm playing a clan battle.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2011, 05:00:14 pm »
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I have enough money to ride plated chargers in milanese plate until I die of old age.. So that's a big NO from me, have you not seen LLJK's plated charger death squad? you want more of that? xD

My next gen I was going to go cav and just ride a plated charger with full black armor just for shits and giggles because of how much cash I have to spend on nothing.

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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2011, 05:04:39 pm »
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I don't want to make it cheap. For god's sake, I feel like tutoring at a kindergarden. I only want a slight decrease so people get an impuls to use them again and increase diversity.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2011, 05:05:45 pm »
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I don't want to make it cheap. For god's sake, I feel like tutoring at a kindergarden. I only want a slight decrease so people get an impuls to use them again and increase diversity.

DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I SAID


They are useable, I am going to use one next gen, I could use one for the rest of my life if I wanted, the price is FINE.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2011, 05:08:47 pm »
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DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I SAID


They are useable, I am going to use one next gen, I could use one for the rest of my life if I wanted, the price is FINE.
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3800 gold is fine? You make me laugh.

Yes I did read your post, but maybe you didn't understand: nobody uses these horses because of their steep pricing. I want people to ride around more on the more expensive horses instead of riding on their courser/ar. warhorse all the time. Sure, some grinders who got millions of gold can use this thing frequently.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2011, 05:13:30 pm »
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Actually, people do use this horse, even with the 'steep' pricing.. sooo... What is your point here? Instead of coursers or destriers or rouncey's you want plated chargers?

"I want people to ride around more on the more expensive horses instead of riding on their courser/ar. warhorse all the time."

^ you said it my friend, and I say NO, if you played a class that didn't lose you money maybe you COULD ride around on a plated charger all the time instead of your courser/ar or warhorse.. xD

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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2011, 05:14:47 pm »
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3800 gold is fine? You make me laugh.
Sure, some grinders who got millions of gold can use this thing frequently.

and you're right, 3800 is far too little I wish they'd up it a bit because 'grinders' still can use it frequently, as you have said.


care to agree with me more? xD
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2011, 06:02:32 pm »
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and you're right, 3800 is far too little I wish they'd up it a bit because 'grinders' still can use it frequently, as you have said.


care to agree with me more? xD
What he obviously meant was that those horses should be able to be your "main" horse, as in, the one you normally take when you go cav. Not after having grinded for 3 months straight.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2011, 06:05:36 pm »
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Im bumping this, people seem to find this the best cavalry suggestion.
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Re: Reduce armoured horse upkeep
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2011, 07:19:46 pm »
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+1, armored horses are way too expensive.