QQ

[Kafein]

Do I say those are bad weapons?

No but as I understand it, you are implying some weapons are good because someone somewhere someday did good with them.

[Matey]

You will probably say this is another QQ thread,and you will be partly right,but i need to state some of my problems as 1h shielder.

First i want to say that i am gen 20,and i played as 1h with shield for 10 gens,and i got used to my nordic champion sword.
In the beginning of my shield days i used to roll with 21/15,24/15,18/21 build that had 0 wm and 111wpf in 1h weapons and it was good enough to spam everyone i encountered that are not very,very good at blocking and fighting.
I think they changed something because this builds at lvl 30 with no wm skill are horrible,swings are a lot slower then it used to be,and you are useless.
Now only decent enough build is 18/18,if you want to go with some other build you need to sacrifice IF or sacrifice IF and Wm skill together to get some points to convert into attributes. if you want to wear some medium armor and have a shield,with 6 athl you just can't fight good enough on EU1,you don't have enough speed to fight vs more then one enemy alone because you are retreating (speed penalty),you have a shield,and you have 6 athl and armor.
1h weapons with blunt,pierce dmg are a little bit OP,shorter 1h weapons got a speed and dmg buff,short 2h got buff,but longer 1h swords didn't get a thing. Please look at this stats.

1h weapons

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MW Short Arming Sword
weapon length: 81
weight: 1
difficulty: 7
speed rating: 104
weapon length: 81
thrust damage: 32 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots:

MW Liuyedao
weapon length: 88
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 8
speed rating: 103
weapon length: 88
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
slots: 1

MW Side Sword
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.4
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 102
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 32 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots: 1

2h

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Mw Longsword
weapon length: 106
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 100
weapon length: 106
thrust damage: 25 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Miaodao
weapon length: 115
weight: 2.7
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 97
weapon length: 115
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback

MW Heavy Bastard Sword
weapon length: 105
weight: 2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 25 pierce
swing damage: 39 cut
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

MW Nordic champ sword

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weapon length: 102
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 102
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots:

How am I supposed to  counter something that is much more faster,longer and more powerful then me with just 6 athl and 6 ps?
This is just one part of the OP weapons,there are much more like broad short sword,nordic short war sword,dadao,long axe...
I feel like a peasant again,there is too much people with heavy armors,too much people with faster weapons then me,only option i have is to stand in crowd and assist. That is not fun at all.
1h with shield are good if you are higher lvl,but as just lvl 30 with long cutting sword like KAS or NCS it is UP. Can't win vs polearmer,can't win vs good 2h with longsword ,cant win vs spamming short sword 1h.
I don't want to use steel pick,warhammer,or any of this swords,also don't want to be 2h,just want to have fun again with sword i choosed 10 gens ago. 

I had to say this,now you can give me infamy. 

Man up and go 12/24 for level 30. 1IF 4PS 8WM 8Shield 8Ath. 172 1hand wpf. Grab something with a really good stab or just the highest cut you can get (while still being at least 99 speed), throw on some nice 9weight or less armour and embrace true shielding.

[dreadnok]

You don't have to manual block and can block multiple directions at once
You have the fastest attacks in the game
You have protection from ranged without having to switch items
Best class for fighting outnumbered or escaping when outnumbered
You naturally hit the head
The swings aren't as short as they seem, especially compared to poles

For all that you have less damage on swings, but you hit the head easiest of all classes

Stop the madness. You get shot thru shields. Kicked and nudged 10x easier. Hilt slashes still go thru the shield. What does it matter if you don't have block yet hit every time you go to attack your beat to the punch. I don't blame anyone for turtling anymore. Also 2h sword caster left swing is the fastest swing in game

[Rebelyell]

Stop the madness. You get shot thru shields. Kicked and nudged 10x easier. Hilt slashes still go thru the shield. What does it matter if you don't have block yet hit every time you go to attack your beat to the punch. I don't blame anyone for turtling anymore. Also 2h sword caster left swing is the fastest swing in game

we dont belive you because your I/R  ratio suck 

[Ronin]

Stop the madness. You get shot thru shields. Kicked and nudged 10x easier. Hilt slashes still go thru the shield. What does it matter if you don't have block yet hit every time you go to attack your beat to the punch. I don't blame anyone for turtling anymore. Also 2h sword caster left swing is the fastest swing in game

Is that a high ping issue? Because I never get hit while holding a shield in front.

[BlueKnight]

we dont belive you because your I/R  ratio suck 

His I/R ratio is a bit over 2. You wanted to say that his R/I ratio sucks.

[Macropus]

You should get 7 or 8 PS if you use long swords like nordic champ.
Also why would you even need any IF as lvl 30 shielder, you better go for 21-18, imo.

And shielder is still the king of battlefield.

[Mlekce]

Just tried some build,and now i can see that it isn't problem with swords or my skill or gear,builds of people have changed.
As weapon stats changed,so do builds,crpg evolved. Matey is right.